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  1. Yowza

    Yowza x5 r1 gladiator. Flummoz

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    Allow me to give you twinks a fun and historical lesson. Late cata I had met a small, organized group in a WSG game on US playing my shaman (their alias’ are Vianco, Stubs, and Nicozy) My gameplay drew their attention and like that we clicked organically, next thing you know we’re in skype having the time of our lives.

    Fast forward some time and it’s now mop and I’m considered part of the Tough Love family. Because of my revered friendship with Pizza throughout the years, I had managed to influence one of the most monumental leaders of the 19 twink bracket to change his guild name.

    Because of past history of Waw Tawent’s loss to Train Cow, I declared an idea to John about creating a powerhouse guild. Combining the best of EU with the best of NA. The catch was myself, Vianco, Nettiebay, would be CO-GMs leading this newly reformed guild alongside Pizza. Inevitably we merged Tough Love’s members with Waw Tawent’s members forming a renowned and deleterious group, called Raw Talent. Thus altering and shaping twink history forever.

    Fortunately for the future twink millennials to come, due to my inability to reason without stubbornness.. myself and Tough Love split from Pizza and Skill Ratio, exiling ourselves to alliance. With the support from my EU family I had formed a new guild Rough Love; and we became the sister alliance guild of Tough Love.

    Our infamous roster included:

    •Nettiebay
    •Stubs
    •Nicozy
    •Reece
    •Ridwane
    •Vianco
    •Arkant
    •Ondura
    •Yowza
    •Agonist
    •Whatgoesup
    •Hajima (I had found and recruited one day in a pug)

    Through these players (that I will hold dear in my twink heart forever) we dominated every game on US and crushed every EU premade 3-0. One early season of mop myself, Vianco and Nettiebay ran destro lock, arcane mage, disc priest and won the twink cup 3v3 tournament without AGM’s (excluding myself the healer). We were a force to be reckoned with.

    Practically every player that I had listed above, has been mentioned as ‘best of’ or labeled as a ‘goat’. Therefore concluding the original members of Raw Talent, and TL/RL (NA/EU) as histories strongest twink team. And without a doubt if they were still active would be proclaimed best.

    As of this moment I’m not going to discredit the winning Twink Cup teams. But the rest of the opposition were a joke, Skill Ratio had a watered down roster (only a couple good players) and there was nothing shocking about the wins.

    Pertaining to ‘best of all time’ EU is better in terms of single player mechanics and team play, even though there are a handful of commendable US players/leaders. That being said NA pugs have always been more competitive, hence why every top player has played on US and the activity continually lies here.

    I have played every class and every expansion, I have played A Team for Waw Tawent, Train Cow, Tough Love, and Skill Ratio. I have played in EU and US.

    This is my informed opinion.
     
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  2. Quack

    Quack Veteran

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    Was it not renamed to Raw talent after Waw tawent

    * I feel like in Cata / MoP your argument had some breathing room.
    But since WoD, I feel like NA is very split. The players are either a 2/10 or an 8-9/10.
    On EU I feel like the ones that actively play are better.
    However I agree that NA pugs were better because people undertook kid fights more serious and didn’t crutch on Druid and rogues which EU did.
    Still I think EU>NA with like I said in a previous thread, a few exceptions.
    Good read though.
     
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    Yowza

    Yowza x5 r1 gladiator. Flummoz

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    Yes my apologies, clouded thoughts created an error.
     
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    Revoman Member

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    Having been a twink for since around the end of BC, I think I've seem the same thing you have. Although, I have never played TL as I quit for the majority of MoP, but I agree with the majority of what you said. Some of the best twinks I've ever played against were EU. Playing those EU's on wotlk private servers with seruka, zeno, push, etc way back then was probably the most fun i've had playing twonks and the EU's there were doing things that were just unheard of on NA and I learned alot from playing against them. (I can't remember their names)
     
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    Mvq 2016 TC Champion

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    You have to realize tho', that GSC won the finals due to SR getting outstrategized. And since the strategist of SR is John, no matter the roster, SR would've gotten outstrategized.

    I'm the best FC of WoD & Legion. I've played on GSC A team since 2015.

    This is my informed opinion.

    [​IMG]
     
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    partygirl Toxic

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    Stabilt didnt play US until WoD so im a bit confused how u put him in ur roster considering im 99% sure he never played lol.
     
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    good one bro
     
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    Ridwane Grandfathered

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    Mvq 2016 TC Champion

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  10. Puempeekstoh

    Puempeekstoh Veteran

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    We are all twinks of this earth, we must coexist whether were NA/EU/Oceanic and even Latin America (not Brazil).
     
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    Dirtyauction was never locked up

    He quit WoW to avoid losing more mirrors to Stubx in 19 twink arena combat.

    Tough Love #1
     
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    Puempeekstoh Veteran

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    prove it
     
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    partygirl Toxic

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    @Quack Sqooshi shits on DA
     
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  14. Quack

    Quack Veteran

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    Everyday 6-7 times nothing weird

    On topic
    I’m the best player to ever play the gulch this is my informed opinion
     
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    Whatgoesup best of all time lul
     
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  17. Trialdruid

    Trialdruid the Oracle

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    Not true at all, AYGAT & DYFL were much better

    Imnotwinked of ETPG was far from any of their best players

    and even if I agree that Ondura is a good player he wasn't even in AYGAT's A-team

    & Nayani couldn't even make our B-Team in HT

    don't do revisionist history, it is very distasteful and disrespectful to the people on whose shoulders these people stand
     
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    Bestworld MBA

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    WoD arena, Vehemity and me > everyone in 19's and 29's as mage disc/resto sham. We were the one team that would stop double BM teams (at 29) from queuing. I.e Keg and Technique or whatever their names were. And we were the only team to consistently challenge Stubs and Viticus at 19.
     
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    Yowza

    Yowza x5 r1 gladiator. Flummoz

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    I didn’t watch the TC but clarify me if I’m wrong didn’t you play one game ? mr self proclaimed best fc.

    Ahh yes out strategized, just like your O and D strat you lost with the other day against a lock team, you preaching not even the distinguished 19 leaders have an answer for XD

    Whether you had a strategy or not against SR the win would have been imminent for your team, don’t act like the playing ground was remotely even.

    Pls don’t come @ me with information mr informer, unless it’s an informed date on ur cata server


    ahh sry typo meant to put ashley not stabilt, honest slip will correct thxzz


    You’re marching in here with guild acronyms like they’re note worthy

    I recall your name though back when I played on EU (bless brother ridwane for extra account) and IF I’m correct you would be the druid to run awkward rooftop shenanigan strats with phonebook into a loss.

    We stomped out every premade organized 3-0. The most memorable part for me was getting tiger lusts below the gy containment area and getting 5 man fear bombs.
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 12, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 12, 2018 ---
    lowkey remember melding 3-4 HoJ's back to back games on my priest vs DA

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Ridwane

    Ridwane Grandfathered

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    I recall Vehemity, why i don't recall you ;(
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 12, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 12, 2018 ---
    You are digging too much in the past, plus i was in DYFL on my priest as random toon invited by Clysthene the french officer, i did some 2s against some of them, nothing impressive. They were good sure, but it must be standard for both topguilds at their era. Played aswell against Maddock and Moonfirespam back in the day, Ovation and Cursed sure i had some pretty decent loses, but i was trash back in the day.
     

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