39 Enhance Shaman
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LULIMALION
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just as a note www.chardev.org is much much much better 
Bansil
OG
hit to gloves
monkey shoulder
4stats to bracers
ogrons sash
basilisk legs / triprunners to save money
goldminers helmet (25hit + 17expertise > 28hit imo)
aquamarine signet of falcon, not tiger
that's what i would change...
flurry procs from crits, so stacking agi in some slots is superior to int/pure AP
monkey shoulder
4stats to bracers
ogrons sash
basilisk legs / triprunners to save money
goldminers helmet (25hit + 17expertise > 28hit imo)
aquamarine signet of falcon, not tiger
that's what i would change...
flurry procs from crits, so stacking agi in some slots is superior to int/pure AP
Atotem
OG
Bansil said:
If i can find monkey shoulders or get them to drop, then alright.
I like the +ap because I already have them enchanted to the wrists.
I checked and the Ab belt gives me better stats imo, AB( +16 AP but -.21% crit) > Ogron's (-16 ap but +.21% crit).
i get more AP but lose 1% crit with my current build on the legs
my current hat is free (main is a LW), instead of paying a couple 100 gold.
I have both rings.
I also found a Green Lens of the Wolf (haha) and Monkey on my old bank alt so i'll be using those as well.
Bansil
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belt:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=20152 5stam/24AP vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13117 9stam/18AP/crit
leg:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=7760 11AP/mana vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=1718 21AP/8stam/crit
hat:
goldminers is free too. it is farmable.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=20152 5stam/24AP vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13117 9stam/18AP/crit
leg:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=7760 11AP/mana vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=1718 21AP/8stam/crit
hat:
goldminers is free too. it is farmable.
Bansil
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place an alt there and log in once in a while...someday you will have your goldminers.
and if you dont want to spend huge amounts of gold, you can wait for a cheap one or use triprunners.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9624 21AP/6stam vs 11AP/mana
do they change the kilt with 3.1??? it is useless atm...
edit:
do you really want to lvl up JC and keep it?
and if you dont want to spend huge amounts of gold, you can wait for a cheap one or use triprunners.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9624 21AP/6stam vs 11AP/mana
do they change the kilt with 3.1??? it is useless atm...
edit:
do you really want to lvl up JC and keep it?
Atotem
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Well I'll keep a look out for some cheap basillisk pants and the hat but until I'll keep what I have picked out. I might as well also grab a pair of the quest triprunners pants too.
As for JC I will be having a elemental set as well so I will need to have engineering and Jc. or I'll drop JC and get alchemy and grab the alchemy trinket (+5 all stats), whatever its called.
As for JC I will be having a elemental set as well so I will need to have engineering and Jc. or I'll drop JC and get alchemy and grab the alchemy trinket (+5 all stats), whatever its called.
elesian
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I also made some similar mistakes to your train of though in the early days - don't think AP, think crit. Honestly the burst from crit is superior. I've gone through enough maths to verify this claim, PvP is all about burst, and that's where crit > ap.
You should be taking expert goldminers hat, without question. It's 5.5% reduced avoidance from the front, which, unless rogue, means you will be seeing dodge/parry happening, on average, half as often. Do it.
With the spirit nerf outside of the mp5 rule coming in, i might even consider a 12/12 of the monkey hat also. Medallion over medal of courage - really max out that crit percent. 9.22% is far, far too low. Take Revolosh Spaulders of Monkey any day, for the dps and the crit - don't worry about mana, you're going to be dead before running out. Robe is a great choice. Personally i'm more comfortable with the HP argument after the nerf, so i would stack as much stamina as possible, so take 150hp on chest. A ret paladin is going to take you out in 1 burst with that much HP.
As a shaman your burst is pretty high anyhow, and with some high crit, it's going to be impressive, i'd stack more stamina, take 120HP on the bracers. 24AP is honestly, a negligable amount. Think survival = more damage in sustained fights. 35AGI on wep is far, far superior to 70AP, it's 35AP, a nice boost to avoidance, and 3% crit. Basilisk Hide pants over the warchief kilt. 21Agi, and 8Stamina are the stats you need - also replenish some of your lost AP.
Ogron's sash is superior. You don't take 6AP over an extra 5 stamina, and 0.6% crit. +15 Hit rating to gloves + the 18hit from the head piece in the 3.1 revision, and you have your hit cap - the hit cap is not negotiable, it's essential. Don't look at it as "oh, i've only got a 3.5% chance to miss", look at it that over a sequence of 10 moves, you have a 35% (from successive probabilities) to FAIL.
If you spec your gear just right you can have something like 18% crit chance, and 2200hp with 400ap, more avoidance, and hit cap, which is just so superior, in PvP terms at least, to what you have now
You should be taking expert goldminers hat, without question. It's 5.5% reduced avoidance from the front, which, unless rogue, means you will be seeing dodge/parry happening, on average, half as often. Do it.
With the spirit nerf outside of the mp5 rule coming in, i might even consider a 12/12 of the monkey hat also. Medallion over medal of courage - really max out that crit percent. 9.22% is far, far too low. Take Revolosh Spaulders of Monkey any day, for the dps and the crit - don't worry about mana, you're going to be dead before running out. Robe is a great choice. Personally i'm more comfortable with the HP argument after the nerf, so i would stack as much stamina as possible, so take 150hp on chest. A ret paladin is going to take you out in 1 burst with that much HP.
As a shaman your burst is pretty high anyhow, and with some high crit, it's going to be impressive, i'd stack more stamina, take 120HP on the bracers. 24AP is honestly, a negligable amount. Think survival = more damage in sustained fights. 35AGI on wep is far, far superior to 70AP, it's 35AP, a nice boost to avoidance, and 3% crit. Basilisk Hide pants over the warchief kilt. 21Agi, and 8Stamina are the stats you need - also replenish some of your lost AP.
Ogron's sash is superior. You don't take 6AP over an extra 5 stamina, and 0.6% crit. +15 Hit rating to gloves + the 18hit from the head piece in the 3.1 revision, and you have your hit cap - the hit cap is not negotiable, it's essential. Don't look at it as "oh, i've only got a 3.5% chance to miss", look at it that over a sequence of 10 moves, you have a 35% (from successive probabilities) to FAIL.
If you spec your gear just right you can have something like 18% crit chance, and 2200hp with 400ap, more avoidance, and hit cap, which is just so superior, in PvP terms at least, to what you have now
Bromrotama
OG
If you make a enh shaman budget twink prepare to get owned hard. I would advise only makin an enhance sham if you got the gold to spend. If not spec ele or resto.
ophidiandusk
OG
Edited because.