20s Dragonflight enchants

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  1. Bakedaflol

    Bakedaflol The Arthritic Arch-Druid

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    Note: Post-launch or Pre-launch is referencing 15th of November. Wich is when the pre-patch event, and the new Chromie updates are likely scheduled to kick in. Hence why you can't test the scaling changes on the PTR yet.
    So even though pre-patch is set to start on the 26th of October, Not all changes will kick in untill the 15th of Nov.


    Neck:
    MUST BE ENCHANTED BEFORE 15TH.

    -Satyr is still a safe choice, yet it must be enchanted before launch.
    -For Mastery junkies, swapping to Mark of the Trained Soldier before launch might be worth it.

    Shoulders:
    Still Northrend Inscription.

    Note that you'll also have to enchant pre-launch to make use of it.
    I'd say its worth it to put the enchant on now, regardless of your current proffessions.
    Since it's the only shoulder enchant in the game, and will be Grandfathered post-launch

    Cloak:
    Pre-enchanted: Mainstat, as before
    Post-launch: Higher level Blue enchants.

    Chest:
    Same as before. Gives 3 of all stats

    Bracer:
    Less value, same as before

    Gloves:
    Spell power:
    Less value, still same
    Attack Power:
    Less Value, still same
    Mastery:
    Less value, still same

    Legs:
    Leatherworking! If you have your favored off-stats with 3xSlot gear, it'll be BiS in DF aswell. So it's important to have it enchanted Pre-launch.

    Ilvl 95 quest-epics from SL zones, are the only items that will trump this.

    Boots:
    It was at first my idea that mainstat enchants give 2+ across the board. This seems to be wrong. i might have to come back to edit, on agi enchants. but as it seems right now, Boar's Speed is set to be an allround safechoice.

    Stamina:
    Boar's speed: Minor speed + 2 stam
    Agility:
    Assassin's step: Minor Speed + 1 agi.
    Off-stat:
    All seem to give only 1 stat (with or without Minor speed) - Might be edited.
    Vers:
    Enchant boots - Greater Versatility: 2 vers

    Rings:
    [ Enchant Ring - Accord of ____] - Can be enchanted post-launch, and WILL be your go to.

    Weapon:
    Weapon enchanting will change if you haven't enchanted pre-launch.

    Pre-Launch:

    -Crusader
    -Major Spell Power
    -Elemental Force
    - All old Agility Enchants.
    - Mark of Shadowmoon. - Not that insane for the time being. Seemed decent on beta.

    Note: All pre-BFA enchants will be gf'ed if not enchanted pre-launch. I decided to still leave some of the more notable above.

    Post-Launch:
    BFA Weapon enchants will now scale with our higher item level weapons!
    We might still be able to access Shadowlands Enchants aswell, for those who know how to do it.

    For DKs, Fallen Crusader is now a tid bit stronger in output than Crusader. Wich means DKs won't be affected the way other classes are.

    Off-hand/Shield:

    Same for Off-hand Int users. Needs to be equipped pre-launch.

    Shields:
    Seems to be the same as before. But I might change this.

    Additional info:

    Flask:
    -Alchemist's Flask = 7 main-stat

    -Greater Arcane Elixir = 10 SP and 3 Crit.

    -Elixir of Mongoose = 8 Agility and 3 Crit

    -Elixir of Fortitude = 60 hp.

    Classic Cooking:
    -Juicy Bear Burger = 3 intellect.

    -Smoked Desert Dumplings = 4 Str.

    -Grilled Squid = 2 Agi.

    -Mightfish steak = 2 stam.

    -Lemon Herb Filet = 1 Vers.

    Oils & stones:
    - All Wizard Oils, Sharpening & Weight stones are GF'ed due to our high itemlevel weapons.

    Item level changes:
    - Classic Dungeon Epics: 87

    - Skullflame Shield(27ilvl) = ilvl 57
    - Freezing Band(26ilvl) = ilvl 57
    Classic World Epics are abit weird, since they have been squished and scaled a few times. The original versions(pre-WoD squish) does not scale at all. Whilst those farmed in recent expansions do scale.
    Example: I have 2 freezing bands, one is an original and stays item level 27 after launch. Whilst the other is farmed more recently and scales up properly. Not sure if this is the case with Destiny, Skullflame and Hand of Edward the Odd, since people have had to farm them in recent times, due to the fact that they had a too high level cap to be scaled down to 20 to begin with.
    It's worth noting that Classic World epics will still be top-notch, due to their passive effects, even if the item level is lower than other epics.


    - WoD Warforged Epics = ilvl 87

    - Shadowlands Quest epics = ilvl 95

    - Neckslot: Alot of us will keep using [Armsmaster's Sealed locket] or The Legion Epic ones, since we won't be able to put Satyr on after 15th.


    Final words:
    This thread will be open to requests! If there are enchants you'd like to have tested or added to the list, feel free to suggest.
    Aswell as general questions I'd be able to answer regarding the current beta-build.
     
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  2. Warglave

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    Are we certain they're just going to abandon all old enchants? Couldnt they plan to adjust the requirements?

    I havent looked into the enchanting revamp at all, sorry if that's a dumb question. I know I couldnt find them in the new interface unless I directly searched for them in the search bar but I figured that was typical beta nonsense...
     
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    They aren't technically abolishing the enchants. It's just that most of them are item level capped to 50 or 60.
    With the recent item level changes to the gear at our respective level, a big majority of enchants won't be applicable.

    I have a teensyweensy suspicion that they might regulate the item level caps or rescale enchants in the future, but there isn't any sign of that happening any time soon.
     
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    Awesome info, thank you much!!
     
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    I think Satyr isn't possible for me before pre-launch, i shouldn't have been that lazy. :PepeHands:
    Does it need alot of grind for the Northrend inscription enchant?
    I've never even looked at it, cuz i'm usually a weird engineer :ez:
     
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    What bfa weapon enchants do you suggest?

    are the only options the “navigation” ones which I think are mainstat + specific secondary. I’ll need to look into that more.

    I did try out naga hide as guardian and it procs, but I wasn’t super in love with the uptime. Have weapons with 2h agility (mighty?) and ele force ready to go here.

    edit- I will add that I have gotten crits of 400+ on ele force, specifically as balance spec.
     
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    i'm sure they will fix it. because otherwise the majority of enchantments are useless. and why increasing the itemlevels but not the requirements for enchants?
     
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    What an incredibly convenient way to remove powerful legacy enchants they have difficulty balancing from low level BGs while being able to treat it like buff?
     
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    They'll still be around next squish, tho.

    edit- and they also dont seem too well concerned about low level balance... clearly. :KEKW:
     
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    Ele Force is great asf. Lines perfect with Satyr and Blade of Eternal Darkness, wich will be my BiS next Xpac.
    Major SP will only give 8 SP in open world. So it might be fair to assume that Ele force will take it's place for a few casters.

    List of BFA-enchants:
    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_for_Azeroth_enchanting_formulas

    Tested Mark of the Shadowmoon for Resto druid. The procrate is good. It procs off of anything, including the Skeletons from Book of the dead. Gives 17 Versatility and gave me roughly 3 procs per minute.

    Coastal Surge seems ridiculously bad, ngl.
     
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    I mean imagine you learn enchanting from pandaria as example but you can't enchant pandaria items? this way to weird
     
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    Just wanted to add that the uptime of claw (neck) is like 70%+ for WW warrior.
     
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    Will add to list! After checking what it procs on beta. Ty ty
     
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    Test out ascended vigor. It is extremely OP based on my experience for self healing in PvP (test against another person in duels, or use circle of flame against PvP dummy)
     
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    Bakedaflol

    Bakedaflol The Arthritic Arch-Druid

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    Circle of Flame seems like it will be the BiS for all Int-users after the 15th Nov. Due to the item level scaling to epics.

    Will test ascending vigor
     
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    Bis only with socket/tertiary, since some ppl on beta reported that items from all expansions can proc.
     
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    I'm gonna try to spam a couple first bosses in classic on beta tonight, any ideas on easy rinse/repeat ones to try?

    Heading to flamelash in BRD now, not sure how that will turn out....

    edit- sorry to be off topic, wont continue. Good stuff, excited to hear testing results!

    (hahaha cant get into BRD until 20, doh!)
     
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    I have trouble deciding if Major spellpower or Elemental force will be better on blade of eternal darkness for a balance druid.
    Wanted to do both, be I learnt the hard way that the blade is unique...

    How good are Elemental force and Major spellpower on beta currently ?
     
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    I don't think that's true.
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 26, 2022, Original Post Date: Oct 26, 2022 ---
    Major SP - 8+ sp

    I run Ele Force tbh.. It seems real good atm
     
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    It has been confirmed in Live that WoD can Epic + Socket + Tert. It has not been confirmed in any other expansion
     
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