110 Twink guidance

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  1. Herbie

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    Hello all,

    I haven’t been around these parts for some time and I’m here today seeking guidance.

    I have tried to look this up but couldn’t find a specific answer so I’m hoping you can help.

    I’m pretty time poor ish and can’t invest in more than - think at the moment and I’m really not enjoying gameplay at 120 so I’m going to focus on a twink for a while.

    I have seen mixed comments but I believe the general consensus is that at the best lvl to think is 110 vs 111, 115 and 119. Open to any comments around this.

    The biggest question I have is around class. What to pick, what’s a good solid choice. I want to pvp, island runs, pve content and I ideally would to be able to do well at each without the restriction being that I picked the wrong class.

    I am kinda leaning towards a DH because of speed, self healing, option to tank and I have seen some pretty nice dps. But in the back of my mind I also keep thinking about shaman, Druid and paladin.

    What are your thoughts on the best 110 twink?

    Thanks for helping.
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    Also can you still do mythic keystones at 110?
     
  2. Malintent

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    There's no Mythic+ in Legion anymore, they were removed with BFA. As for the best 110 Twink, everyone will give their own answer. Most will say DH or Druid because the DH with the Legendary that's for the head slot can do massive damage with Eye Beam over and over again. Druid because it can constantly spam AoE spells. I personally say think of something you enjoy playing, think of the class and stick with it. I just hit 110 with my Paladin so I'm gearing him out slowly, I plan on doing another Twink just can't think of what I want next. I enjoy 110 vs 120 because at 120 there's such a lack of content to do considering all there is to do is World Quests, PvP and Raiding, everyone I know at 120 just Raids and does Mythic+ with the rare PvP thrown in there. I'd just suggest taking something you enjoy playing and seeing how it fits you. I'm mostly a Melee person so I stick with big dick DPS type of classes that just constantly do damage up close.
     
  3. sevenohseven

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    pick a class you enjoy or you want to tryout and stack secondary’s. pair up azerite traits that are complimentary and enjoy. bfa blues are 210 quest rewards can proc up to 224 i think. the pvp gear from the vendor can get up to 225 while stuff from bg boxes i haven’t seen go higher than 205. 2 leggos is what most people run unless its to sacrifice stats for a leech set
     
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  4. Millmerman

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    This is super helpful. Thank you.

    PS- this is for a 110?
     
  5. Veechard

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    110 and 111 want the same gear (2 legendarys, 3: 300 IL azerites and Mythic Ant gear) but 111s benefit from enchants and gems more (gems are like 40 secondary’s instead of 11, and enchants higher as well)) . However I wouldn’t roll a 111 because they are scarce, and are in 111-119 BGs, and your better off going 119 that that point.

    So your options are 110 or 119. Week in and week out, you will have a lot more fun gearing and playing 110.
     
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  6. norcal313

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    For the things you specifically mentioned you wanted to do, 110 all the way.

    I'd suggest a paladin. You can do all three things well, and you have the additional option of being a tank or healer should you get bored of ret.
     
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    Herbie

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    So I was about to go with DH because I really want to extra speed getting around but I have just been informed that they are getting nerfed next patch. Is it significant enough to make it so they are less desirable?

    Because I have limited time, I am more interested in picking the class that gives me longevity because I wont be able to chop and change.

    Re the paladin, its an interesting choice but aren't they really slow. Kinda spoil the fun a little bit for me I think.

    I did see an affliction lock doing some crazy things and island runs were pretty much dot and run with burning rush on with ED trait boosting drain life to destroy elites.

    Whilst we are at it, any suggestions on professions. If I went DH I was going to do leatherworking and one other. Any other character I pick will be who knows what. I don't have any idea what prof is good for a twink other than maybe engineering for the toys.
     
  8. Asildorian

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    Far as twinks go with the things accessible to them and class mechanics they are really on top all around. Only class i know all around good like that is prot pallies who are very good, they only class i have known to be able to top dmg/healing in BGs. Kind of hate i found out about them after i capped mine lol. I got a couple 110 twinks, none Antorus geared sadly work in progress most dancing round 240 ilvl...but with the ones i have and what i see DH is pretty good all around from PvE and PvP. Defensive abilities, speed/utility, great dps and pretty immortal running legion content cause heals from killing demons.

    I love my twinks DK, enh shaman, hunter and rogue but everytime people ask this question i say DH for all around play.

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  9. Arlaren

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    What’s this about 8.1 DH nerfs?
     
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    What's the viability of preists? I've got a 110 priest that I reckon I could twink out :D
     
  11. Asildorian

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    Depends..they are very strong though i think they maybe getting nerfed i heard, idk. But they are very strong healer and very tanky in pvp. You won't be disappointed i feel they probably only second to druids.

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    They are getting a decent nerf to shield, but should still be strong. Shadow getting a surv. nerf
     
  13. Oneten

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    I'm sorry - newish to the 110 twinking community - What PVP vendor are you referring to that I can buy gear from? And more info on how to purchase that gear. Got all mine from dungeons/rares. Thank you in advance!
     
  14. sevenohseven

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    in new dal past the portals to major citys there are a few vendors. one sells the pvp food for bg’s, one sells tmogs and the one closest to the stairs sells pvp gear. 2 types are available but i dont know if its possible to farm the required currency. i forget what theyre called but you get them by obliteirizing ilevel 185 and higher pvp gear you get from bg’s. might be a better or faster way i just havent looked into it. no weapons just armor and it has to proc up to the 225.
     
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    Here’s a basic rundown of the twink classes I have/friends have, and what I think about each one:

    Arcane mage has insane burst, but unless you’re stacking leech like Veechard, getting kicked/spell locked makes you useless. But if you’re freecasting, nothing will live.
    Fire mage is the most annoying class you can twink out because it kites and CC’s all day long, it hits like a truck when freecasting, and it has better survivability than arcane.
    In regards to mage, if you lack skill and want to piss everyone off, fire is the way to go.

    Disc priest (as of right now) literally does not die. Unless you have 7+ non twinks, or 3+ twinks sitting on you, you’re gonna live for a very long time. However, weakened soul is returning in 8.1, so twink discs are going to require some actual skill rather than spamming shield.
    Shadow priest seems to top damage over literally every other class right now. Their damage is just insanely OP due to the mix between dots and hard hitting spells. When being sat on, they’re not as viable, although they have multiple CCs and self heals. Also, they’re getting buffed in 8.1, so this is a very solid option in my opinion. The only problem with them, as far as I’ve experienced, is 1v1s. If you’re 1v1ing any class with kicks/stuns/spell defensives/self heals, you’re gonna lose.

    Affli warlocks are the only other class that compete with shadow priests damage. All they do is just spam insta cast dots, and if they are using the life drain trait, they can 1 shot anybody in seconds. However, this trait is getting nerfed in 8.1, so I’m interested to see what some other viable setups are for affli. Overall, great damage, great self heals, and if free-casting (AKA being able to throw out unstable afflictions), good luck to the enemy team.

    Demon hunters are broken. Specifically havoc demon hunters. My DH’s eye beam hits for 30k+. That’s an insta kill on any non-twink, and over half the hp of any twink. They’re by far the best class for expeditions too. However, eye beam is getting nerfed in 8.1, so I’m curious to see how op the class will still be after that.

    Now, my personal favorite, DKs. First of all, Frost sucks. Stay away. Blood DK is insane right now because of their insane hp and self heals, but that is getting nerfed in 8.1. If you roll a DK, you have to go unholy. Unholy dk is honestly fantastic. You can either talent for rot (AKA you run around and AOE enemies from 30 yards away and they melt) or for burst (enemies drop in seconds and you can still hit them from 30 yards away). Rot allows you to kite melee forever, while burst is a combination of getting up close then kiting. UH DKs also have great self heals with death strike and blood pact. I piss people off when i’m at 10% hp one second then 70% the next. And the best part about UH is that it’s getting buffed in 8.1 because for some reason, people are complaining it’s not good. Well they haven’t seen me in action. The AOE on UH dk’s is unlike any other class, the survivability is great, and to all the people that say unholy dk’s get kited all day long, incorrect. They do the kiting. While most UH prefer rot spec for the nice aoe and range, I prefer burst. I can 1v1 literally any class except for ret pally twinks or tank twinks, while rot can’t do that. And do you know how many times I’ve had someone whisper me and ask “Is unholy melee or is it a fucking mage?” because of the surprisingly long range it has for a melee class. If you want a fun class that lives long, hits hard, and makes people question the game, go with unholy. (it may take some time to learn it and get the rotation down)

    To finish this off:

    As much as I love UH DK, Ret pally is probably the best class. It can 1v1 anything, it can kite, it can heal, and when you think it’s almost dead, it either bubbles or instantly full heals. I once saw a twink ret run into a mob of 8 horde non-twinks, use wake of ashes, and they literally disappeared. If you want to roll with the class that takes little skill and destroys everything, go ret. I’d say ret is the equivalent to fire mage in skill needed and OP-ness.

    Boomies are OP and great.
    Feral sucks right now.
    Outlaw rogue seems to be the go-to for rogues because of their burst.
    Enhancement shammy can either spam insta-cast heals all day, or actually do damage, but it doesn’t seem like it can do both.
    Elemental is trash.
    I don’t know enough about hunters or warriors to comment.

    In summary:

    If you’re gonna roll a tank, Prot pally all the way. DH tank has mediocre damage and healing. They are only good for flag carrying. I’ve only seen 1 monk tank, and I wasn’t impressed. Blood DK is great right now, but I’m worried about 8.1. Guardian druids are pretty OP to be honest. They’re very hard to kill, have great self heals, and decent damage. But still, prot pally is the way.

    If you’re gonna roll a healer, MW monk all day. I once had 100 stacks of life drain on my warlock, fully bursted a mist weaver, and they didn’t drop below 50%. And for those of you that have seen a warlock with 100 stacks of life drain, you know that nothing survives that. But apparently a mistweaver can.

    For melee dps, it’s between ret or unholy in my opinion. Ret wins right now, but come 8.1, that may change.
    For ranged dps, spriest and fire mage are probably the most annoying due to their CC’s and insane damage.
     
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    Is it viable to gear up as a 110 twink without doing Mythic Ant? Because I wont have heaps of time, getting into groups will prove difficult as the times I will play are random and probably for a hour at a time.

    I know mythic ant will provide the best gear, but is there a substantial different between having it and not?
     
  17. necroaqua

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    You'll still do really well either way. Its more of a BiS thing. If you're only looking for island expeditions/pve stuff anyways, then consider 111, which has easy access to crafted gear that is better than quest gear but worse than m antorus upgrades.
     
  18. Asildorian

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    Yeah im kind of same boat with my 110 twinks, no Mythic Antorus gear mostly 225+ gear from Legion came from PvP. So most my gear come from upgrades from dungeons BFA, rare/chests. For the most part you will be still head shoulders above non-twinks in this type gear. And in PvE 110 rares/mobs will get merc'd pretty easily. You will feel very strong and will not miss mythic Antorus gear, so i wouldn't waste money or gold on people selling runs. There are people i have seen doing runs who let certain ilvl 110s join and i think a thread of a group doing it weekly on the forums here.

    The difference between a mythic Antorus is noticeable depending jow geared they are the average twink without Antorus will be pushing 245ilvl ballpark highest geared twinks in Antorus gear dancing around 265-270ish which is substantial in that 15-25 ilvl difference top of the food chain pretty much. You not going to be out performing these guys easily by a decent bit considering equal skill. But doesn't mean you're under performing 265+ ilvl twinks aren't super common and 270+ is rare. Regardless, you will be doing same thing they doing smashing non-twinks in pvp, beeezing through pve content and enjoying the power of 110 scaling just fine but slightly slower but that is just fine.

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    The 111 thing is tempting as the only trade off is PVP which I can sort of do other ways. for example I have a druid sitting at 119 that I am thinking of leaving there for pvp

    Is there a substantial different in pve and island between 110 and 111?
     
  20. Asildorian

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    I kind of wish i kept my hunter at 110 vs 111 because i like ipvp...but scaling of course to 119 you lose all your wonderful stats lol. But outside of that 111 is still a nice place to twink just your secondary stats takes a small hit. But 111 you get better scaling on other like gems and access to crafted armor which can proc 233ilvl. 119 twinks i really don't notice as much in BGs maybe like PvE due to scaling they don't just tear everything apart in seconds, idk. But i hear quite a few doing it and enjoy it so maybe you will to if you try it out.

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