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At least to the F2P, vet 20's, and 29's. 39's would be the new meta for proper Twinking since most dungeon loot is around 30-35 required level. But we shall see.

Anyone who twinks and complains about "unfair advantage" is a hypocrite, considering how twinks are meant to be "unfair" to begin with.

That right there is the definitive explanation of what Twinking is. Like it or hate it. Twinking only exist because of that power gap.

Dragonflight beta started 9-1-22. Ilvl change on live didn't happen until 11-15-22. Plenty of time for anyone to prepare

Granted the new epics if made available to 29s once again will only be ilvl 89 if we are going based on the fact that old world dungeon epics for required level 30s are only ilvl 91 Also historically speaking "Twinking" has always been about getting the best gear at that level. Since when did...

Just putting this here to remember the short-lived but fun dungeon farming. "Never once used any of this gear in any form of PvP" I feel like as a Twink if you are serious about your toon, it's better to obtain and lose over not ever obtaining at all in the off chance it stays.

To note your note. The Shadowlands Gems require ilvl 87 gear to slot them. The above mentioned gear will not work currently for them unless they end up changing all their respected ilvl's.

I would say that even if it did have the chance of warforging on the PTR/Beta it still wouldn't be viable in two different ways. #1 Is the fact that the gear is all showing level 30 or over for usable player level to equip. #2 All newly acquired epics on the PTR/Beta are only ilvl 91. Ilvl 91 is...

The whole gearing Meta is about to change in 4 days. Currently the PvP gear is not scaling up and actually losing stats compared to how it was before. PvP gear in 4 days time will be nowhere near BiS.

It's been like that for TBC PvP gear for ages now. A lot of Really high vers PvP gear shows that it has low vers. Nothing new. PvP gear is still unchanged on PTR/Beta. Still shows ilvl 34 with lowered stats compared to retail. Also easiest way to check what the gear is supposed to have for...

Thought I was already being the change by coming into the forums and being helpful to someone who asked questions. Showed full neutrality and no hostility toward any single "group" of people. If anything the change needs to be made in your attitude. I'll leave you to it man. Can't be bothered...

Sheesh I came in here trying to be as neutral and positive as possible to help out a new to be 20/29 twink, to then see this afterwords... No reason for the toxicity.

1. 1b - If you have XP Off you play against others with XP off. 20-29's get XP Off BG queues during the day with anywhere between 5-20min queue times. That slows down a good bit way later in the night/early morning when queue times can be anywhere from 20min-2hour+...

I can tell you that historically speaking for battlegrounds, rogues jobs have always been, 1. Steal bases. 2. Kill EFC. 3. Lock down enemy healers for your teams push. Or 4. Run smoke bomb and drop that with cc on kill target for push. Rogue in my experience has never been a mid fighting class...

I had no idea that was even a thing. But yes if that is indeed true, then as you said depending on what undisclosed level they've hit should dictate which XP-ON bracket they are in. At least until they hit the max undisclosed level in which case back to XP-OFF BG's.

Except for the part where maxing out at level 20 as a non subscription based account, you no longer "Gain Experience" therefore you cannot level passed that point. Even if you want to say they never specifically turned off their XP at the NPC, it happened non-the-less. I could only imagine that...

It may be tagged as a "20" forum, but the forum is about the brackets queue times. Unless I'm mistaken, the bracket is 20-29. Edit - Also, as I've stated in a previous post the F2P/Vets were in the XP-ON bracket previously. So how is it that 29's have invaded "their" bracket now that they are...

This may be a bit incorrect. If XP-ON and XP-OFF brackets were combined then we would still be at the same cross-roads we are currently at where F2P's/Vets don't want to play or queue because they are up against the 29 twinks. With that being said the F2P/Vet 20's may still be very popular for...

I may get some hate for this, but there are a couple things I keep reading in a lot of these threads that's irritating me. #1. The assumption that 29s have invaded the 20's bracket is incorrect. The F2P's and Vets used to be in the XP-ON bracket with levelers. It is in fact the 20's that have...

So Zedqt I can't speak for Outlaw, but I can tell you as a 29 rogue myself that sub isn't lacking much at all in the 29's bracket. If you want to push damage on leaderboard it's quite easy even without a pocket healer. As always pick your battles and know when to dip out. I run 0 haste on my...