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Have the release on trinkets been confirmed for 8.1 though? Remember how long it took the rings to make an appearance.

11 and 6, 10 and 8, 9 and 9

Looking into it, it looks like the on use will increase the stat by 5. Uncertain yet, though.

Just remember that crits are 150% against other players, so it won't hit as hard as the tooltip will state.

Updating list soon. *All Enhancement Shaman ability damage increased by ~5% *Boulderfist damage increased to 35% (from 20%)

I do not take into account arenas nor 1v1s simply for the mention of immunity. This is strictly for bgs/wargames. I am also a ret main, and have been messing with the zeal talent lately. I'm still not convinced that the ret dps is good enough to make him viable, but I can move him up to Tier 4...

Small update to assassination rogues and demo locks shortly

Doesn't it also dispel enemies?

added a few PTR updates to horde racial nerfs

*Tank trink heirloom with 3 stam, dodge and bonus armor with an on use that boosts versatility to "party" (not raid) members by X for Y seconds on a 2 minute cooldown *DPS trink heirloom with 6 haste with on use that boosts haste to party *DPS trink heirloom with 6 crit with on use that boosts...

https://www.wowhead.com/news=288289/database-updated-for-patch-8-1-ptr-build-28294-paragon-pets-new-heirlooms What do you all think of the new heirlooms that are under testing?

Awesome. How do you feel about the other talents? And can they be situationally used or not worth? MM hunter is tier 1. Tier 1 basically means they are good in both pugs ans competitive play. SPriests are Tier 2 which means they are good in pugs and may have potential in competitive but are not...

Acknowledged. As a question, what makes Resto Druid tier 2 over tier 1?

I've mained ret paladin for a long time, and I never thought I would have to rate it that low, but the cooldown issue it has is insane. Not to mention it has mediocre attack power scalings on its abilities for a DPS class.

*NOTE THAT THIS IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS* By requests, I have recreated this into its own thread for better visibility. -I am open to opinions concerning the tier list and class/spec information -Please do not post stuff like "X spec is just bad". please be elaborate and provide reasons...

I posted the source, and yes it's from Wowhead. Last update to the list was October 23. I only placed the notes relating to 19s. The rest of notes involve level 20+ skills, passives, Azerite talents and PvP talents which are unavailable.

Rogues got a few PvP Talent nerfs for assassination and outlaw, and a pvp talent removed for subtlety, but since we don't use PvP talents, it's irrelevant

It was originally going to have more Starsurge damage, but instead they added it to its mastery

MM and SV hunters. BM remains unchanged as Kill Command buff was directed to SV AFAIK.

8.1 PTR from what I've read so far: *Percentages are attack power/spellpower scaling Source https://www.wowhead.com/class-changes-tides-of-vengeance-patch-81 Races Blood Elf ---- Arcane Torrent - 2 min cooldown (from 1.5 min) Troll ---- Berserking - 10% Haste (from 15%) for 12 sec (from 10...