EU+US Are Shadowfang swords BIS for WW monk? Also why do people choose land slide over dancing steel?

Don't run sfangs as WW. Dual wield with looms with Landslide and Ele Force. You don't want to or need to agi stack with WW your fof hits hard enough especially with landslide proc and you want some hp for stronger karma and better sustain.
 
you dont have to stack stam if you play smart
 
DetErMegJostein said:
Still no reason not to get them
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As a 29? Yeah, there's every reason not to get them, it's just a waste (always has been). On a 19? Yeah, you should get em (especially when price drops to like 100g) just for swag. Remember, transmog is account wide in Legion, so if you have them on one toon, don't get them again for transmog on another.
 
Dancing steel is bugged in arenas, it procs like 100%, even on the first swings u will get a proc.
 
Stacking stamina as a ww wont work, escp not if ur going arenas and need to burst someone down quick, u should play with a disc for shields, and to help burst within a fof, prolly second boss comp if u dont face a warbringer warr then rip :)
 
busgaga said:
Dancing steel is bugged in arenas, it procs like 100%, even on the first swings u will get a proc.
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Dancing steel has a different proc system than older enchants, it's designed to give you procs on the first swing and make sure you see procs more consistently, even when RNG is not in your favor. It's not a bug, it's working as intended. That's why Dancing Steel is better than Landslide or any other proc enchant (except ele force). Landslide might give you 1 proc every 2 minutes, and if you get CC'd by a skilled player, the proc just gets wasted and you have no burst for another minute or so. Dancing steel just procs more frequently giving you better sustained burst while making it more difficult to react to procs by skilled players.

busgaga said:
Stacking stamina as a ww wont work, escp not if ur going arenas and need to burst someone down quick, u should play with a disc for shields, and to help burst within a fof, prolly second boss comp if u dont face a warbringer warr then rip :)
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It's not 'stacking stamina.' It's using gear that has all the stats you need, stam, agi, crit, versatility, ect. If you use Sfangs, you're giving up stamina and crit for like +2 agi and a 30 dmg proc (which is really worthless at 29). Why would you do that when you can get some health, haste, and crit (trading 2 agi for like 10 stat points) and do much much better when under pressure?

Twinks have been stuck in 2006 for a long time, they remember when gear only had 1-2 stats on it and the best items were usually green because they had high amounts of throughput stats. You don't need to make a twink this way anymore, it's not helpful to your team when your healers have to work harder to keep you alive. 50 health can mean the difference between living and dying in a clutch play.

Especially when we're talking about a class who benefits directly from stam in two of their defensive mechanics (Fort Brew and Karma). The more overall health you have, the better those abilities become. Lastly, 2s (or any pvp for that matter) is about the long game. Assuming equal gear and skill, the team who lives longer will win, always. Your play has to be about attrition, that's how you get to higher ratings. If you just rush out into a fight and burst to try and win as fast as possible, that's no different than what Jon Snow did this last week in the battle against Ramsey Bolton. It's not strategically advantageous against better players.

It's actually a bad strat against skilled players. If you come out on me and try to burst? I'm going to trade a defensive CD with your burst window and laugh as you struggle to hurt me while I pound your face for the next 1-2 minutes as you wait for burst to come back up. I've played enough 3s in this bracket to know that ignoring valuealbe stats such as stamina is a huge mistake. You can't win if you're dead.
 
You seem retarded, all those enchants are bugged in arenas, look it up if u want. Even rune of fallen crus procs like 100% inside, outside arenas it c ould still be iffy with about no procs for 10 sec, my mate gets double Dancing steel procs on his first frost shock.

Dont argue with me if you dont have a clue about what ur talking about.
 
u can compare em outside and inside, u will still not have it up 100% outside arena, but in arena u wont loose its buff.
 
Nobody cares about you talking about versa, you are that type who make it sound like versa would be "dangerous" do u believe 11% increased dmg done would make any sense unless ur a feral and crits for 3.8 k dmg ? those crits without versa would prolly be 3500 instead, if ur talking about a surv hunter wich loads 600-700 arcane shots u wont even feel that versa.
 
For example, gnoomish xray scope dosnt proc at all in arenas, but flntlock will do, same with jade spirit, dosnt proc outside at all. I had like 1 proc after 3 minutes with insane spamm healing + 100% hots, some enchants are "BUGGED" its not like ur own theory that they have a lesser proc chance, that is also ofc but ive been raiding in cata/mop and i remember those enchants back then when they were working well. U could still see a jade spirit proc after 10-15 sec
 
willix said:
It's actually a bad strat against skilled players. If you come out on me and try to burst? I'm going to trade a defensive CD with your burst window and laugh as you struggle to hurt me while I pound your face for the next 1-2 minutes as you wait for burst to come back up. I've played enough 3s in this bracket to know that ignoring valuealbe stats such as stamina is a huge mistake. You can't win if you're dead.
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in this bracket you as a ww monk with an extra 650 hpish wont save u mich, its one rend crit tick and you are history. dno where u are from But i guess ur from US bracket and you are probably shit.
 
busgaga said:
do u believe 11% increased dmg done would make any sense unless ur a feral and crits for 3.8 k dmg ? those crits without versa would prolly be 3500 instead, if ur talking about a surv hunter wich loads 600-700 arcane shots u wont even feel that versa
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Versa doesn't become better or worse if your burst is split in multiple smaller attacks (explosive ticks) or one big attack (ferocious bite). 11% damage gives you the exact same benefit in both cases.
busgaga said:
Dancing steel is bugged in arenas, it procs like 100%, even on the first swings u will get a proc.
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It's not bugged. It procs on your opener because it functions off the ppm system like @willix said.
busgaga said:
all those enchants are bugged in arenas, look it up if u want.
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Quick google search came up with nothing. Mind linking your sources?
 
It is, some of these enchants have a bigger proc chance inside arena/bg, its not made by blizzard to be the case, its just a bug. Im not linking anything, if ur smart enough and have been in a few brackets u should know by now already what enchants u would prefer due to that.

Same with gnoomish xray, dosnt proc at all in arenas, but flintlock does.
 
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