US Serious question regarding activity - 19's

I had a resto druid named Conq in DoA and my brother was your A teams frost mage ^.^

PuGs are having a hard time right now because most good players are preferring to war game regularly and not swapping to whatever faction needs help anymore as a general rule.

Some people still faction swap, mostly Skill Ratio players. Good on them for trying to take care of the bracket.
 
id say at least 50% of the people who play in these plebs are not going to play in or pugs AT ALL. id say 75% of the people who play in the plebs wouldnt not queue pugs more than 1-2 games in a row before going on a different character/play in a different bracket.

Blame plebs all you want, but i can tell you when i field a group of players from my team, 80% of them do not queue pugs at all and i am definitely one of those who cant sit through more than 1-2 pugs a night. The only reason we play this game is to do plebs/wargames. If you are blaming me for killing pugs, you can go fuck yourself.
 
pugs are boring tbf
 
Make toons on both sides, and build your friends list. Then you can see who's doing what.
 
Muskie said:
If you are blaming me for killing pugs, you can go duck yourself.
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Are you sure you aren't a trump supporter? Your logic as awful similar to him...

No one would blame you for anything Muskie.. but if a new player, such as a young HB or ezeron or grizzle or whoever else you jerk off on stream would try out this bracket how would they establish a name for themselves or even (gasp) improve as a player? Every single 19 tink that plays today participated in pugs, became better in pugs, and were noticed from pugs..

I personally don't have anything against plebs.. do you buddy.. but no one can ignore the fact that it severely stunts the growth in a bracket that is already a very small community and could use some new blood
 
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I'm just having fun playing 19's again, even if 99% of the games Alli is getting their shit handed to them. I'll keep fighting through, taking the ass whooping and using it to improve myself. But I'm sure not everyone has that mindset and when horde is dominating over and over, some people's logic will tell them to reroll horde so they can feel what the feeling of winning a game is like. Thus, further lengthening queue times and killing activity.

I do respect the ones who will come over to Alli when the games are completely one sided and try to balance it out though, and keep the bracket alive.
 
depends whos streaming which is sad!!
 
Dorigon said:
plebmades are the bane of activity in this bracket
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dory dory dory. come now.

heres my take

plebmades definitely effect the LENGTH of how long pugs go. BUT THEY RARELY EFFECT PUGS FROM STARTING, there are days where pugs DONT START because no ones streaming them, the fact that pugs DO NOT POP unless theres one twink streaming is equally pathetic, twinks rely on streams at the moment for pops, which is the honest truth, people need there hand held and like to be seen on a stream or simply doont bother queing because no one is streaming

i blame hunnybuns simply because he provided such an awesome interactive stream for so olong where people would see him streaming and would que up pugs because of that, like it was a sign that games were going.

now, if no one is streaming, people just automatically assume that pugs arent going

tldr - que regardless if there is someone streaming
 
saxxon said:
dory dory dory. come now.

heres my take

plebmades definitely effect the LENGTH of how long pugs go. BUT THEY RARELY EFFECT PUGS FROM STARTING, there are days where pugs DONT START because no ones streaming them, the fact that pugs DO NOT POP unless theres one tink streaming is equally pathetic, tinks rely on streams at the moment for pops, which is the honest truth, people need there hand held and like to be seen on a stream or simply doont bother queing because no one is streaming

i blame hunnybuns simply because he provided such an awesome interactive stream for so olong where people would see him streaming and would que up pugs because of that, like it was a sign that games were going.

now, if no one is streaming, people just automatically assume that pugs arent going

tldr - que regardless if there is someone streaming
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1v1 me irl
 
It's the end of an expac where people always get bored and un-sub or find something else to do. player base for all brackets including endgame has been going down for quite some time.
 
Srs said:
Make toons on both sides, and build your friends list. Then you can see who's doing what.
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(Hass) said:
...if a new player ... would try out this bracket how would they establish a name for themselves or even (gasp) improve as a player? ... new blood
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Xpoff would be wise to display which faction and roles are needed in real time. While the fragility of pugs can be frustrating I think it's important to be efficient with the resources at our disposal. I also propose records of Wsg/Arena be kept with factual data. Comparing the numbers to pleb and streamer activity will allow us to understand rather than theorize and plan for health accordingly.
@Pizza
@Staff
 
Would an interactive platform where people could indicate that they are electing to fill a role be possible? Would something like this compete for real estate with the banner reel/streamers?
 
So is this bracket getting pops more frequently for wsg than 20-29?? I ask because im re subbing and enjoy pvp at 100 and also twink pvp
 
saxxon said:
dory dory dory. come now.

heres my take

plebmades definitely effect the LENGTH of how long pugs go. BUT THEY RARELY EFFECT PUGS FROM STARTING, there are days where pugs DONT START because no ones streaming them, the fact that pugs DO NOT POP unless theres one tink streaming is equally pathetic, tinks rely on streams at the moment for pops, which is the honest truth, people need there hand held and like to be seen on a stream or simply doont bother queing because no one is streaming

i blame hunnybuns simply because he provided such an awesome interactive stream for so olong where people would see him streaming and would que up pugs because of that, like it was a sign that games were going.

now, if no one is streaming, people just automatically assume that pugs arent going

tldr - que regardless if there is someone streaming
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pugs not starting because no ones streaming is another problem.. since when did that become a thing? i never thought of streamers as a motivation for queuing
 
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