A change in 'bracketmaster' and the long term future of the 39 bracket.

DimeBrew said:
Get voice, sync burst.......................
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The only way this actually works is if the brewmaster is as bad as you and FORGETS to even press guard. Maybe you should just replace every button on your keyboard with guard.

Look man, I realize 19s don't have many abilities, but 39s don't have many either. Regular people with above room-temperature IQ don't forget things like that, so it's not something we should have to rely on.

Case in point, the only way to counter a brewmaster:

Twitch
 
ENHANCE
-ghost wolf<
-shear=
-frost shock<
-stormstrike >
-grounding totem<
-purge>
-first row talent=
-n/a <
-lava lash=
-n/a<
-n/a<
-healing stream totem =
-magma totem =

BREWMASTER
-2 rolls and a lust >
-Throat punch=
-barrels>
-keg smash<
-guard>
-n/a<
-fort brew=
-ox stance>
-blackout kick =
-elusive brew>
-nimble brew >
-second talent row =
-breath of fire=

enhance 2 vs bm 6

I may have missed a few things but bm just seems to have more going for it vs an enhance as far as classes go IMO
 
Are you trying to knock 19s? cuz there's a lot of them playing 39s...

link a 2.5 hour video and expect someone to watch the hole thing to figure out why you're still crying? The only people complaining are an Enhance shaman, who will probably roll a monk soon...lol...and a mage who's idea on how to counter people is a stun bomb that doesn't break on damage. run around with 200 and spam them on CD.
 
That just shows that you didn't even click on the link.
 
Not that I agree with you on this, but you could have just said "Some classes are better then others"? pretty standard/vague action of comparing 2 classes
 
I'm sorry, I thought you were a leader of some kind among your peers. I won't make that mistake again.

Do any other bms want to admit how broken that ability is so that we may convince this non-believer?
 
Donteventrii said:
I'm sorry, I thought you were a leader of some kind among your peers. I won't make that mistake again.

Do any other bms want to admit how broken that ability is so that we may convince this non-believer?
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Obviously you just like to troll? Or making all those stun bombs (wich you still haven't addressed) has melted your brain. SYNC BURST>Guard...There, I tried to make it easy to read for you......keep crying and attacking me. Let's talk about the real problem. YOU and your STUN BOMBS!!!
 
I haven't addressed a distraction of what started as a candid discussion. For reasons not yet understood, you've gone off the deep end in defending an ability that everyone else agrees is broken. It's especially puzzling as you have other classes to play. Don't like BM without Guard? Play one of them.
 
For reasons not yet understood, you've gone off the deep end
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Haha for realz, every post from Dime just gets progressively worse.

Here's a secret for you:



SYNC BURST > LITERALLY EVERYTHING IN EVERY BRACKET


The problem is that brewmasters take three times as much burst as a normal class.
 
Snowjobs said:
ENHANCE
-ghost wolf<
-shear=
-frost shock<
-stormstrike >
-grounding totem<
-purge>
-first row talent=
-n/a <
-lava lash=
-n/a<
-n/a<
-healing stream totem =
-magma totem =

BREWMASTER
-2 rolls and a lust >
-Throat punch=
-barrels>
-keg smash<
-guard>
-n/a<
-fort brew=
-ox stance>
-blackout kick =
-elusive brew>
-nimble brew >
-second talent row =
-breath of fire=

enhance 2 vs bm 6

I may have missed a few things but bm just seems to have more going for it vs an enhance as far as classes go IMO
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DPS-------Shaman>BM. I had to guard 1v1 vers Gaytwinker way before he had to start healing.

Shear>Spear Hand. Shear has range!
Grounding Totem>Elusive Brew. Not really fair to compare Gaurd to a totem. Elusive brew is used in the same manner. to stop CC. totem has a way shorter CD and can be glyph to reverse the effect but brew gives to reduced effect.

in my book that's Enhance 5 vs Brewmaster 4
 
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Donteventrii said:
I haven't addressed a distraction of what started as a candid discussion. For reasons not yet understood, you've gone off the deep end in defending an ability that everyone else agrees is broken. It's especially puzzling as you have other classes to play. Don't like BM without Guard? Play one of them.
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SYNC BURST>Guard


my account, my characters, my time. I'll play whatever class I want.
Still dodging the fact that you use stun bombs.
 
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Trialkiller said:
Why can't you take this into private messages? You've already ruined this thread with your spamming just move on.
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Sorry I was defending myself against Idiots?
This derailment is all my fault? Or are you going to "reply with quote" the 2 trolls?
 
BACKPEDDLE said:


The only way this actually works is if the brewmaster is as bad as you and FORGETS to even press guard. Maybe you should just replace every button on your keyboard with guard.

Look man, I realize 19s don't have many abilities, but 39s don't have many either. Regular people with above room-temperature IQ don't forget things like that, so it's not something we should have to rely on.

Case in point, the only way to counter a brewmaster:

Twitch
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Damn, caught me.
 
Some classes are going to be stronger than others, there is just no way around that. We are not going to go down any slippery slopes here. Some classes, when played well, are just going to be op. What we should be looking at here when deciding if something op needs to be neutered is this:

a) how op is it compared to everyone else?
b) how much skill/setup does it take to use?
c) how much does it take to counter?

Both Feral FB and Guard are op compared to everyone else, take very little skill to use, and you can't really counter them. FB is one button and you are dead. Guard is... I mean you can't even dispel it. There is no skillful way to counter Guard. No cast to kick, nothing to anticipate and counter ahead of time. Your only option is to get in a position to burn it down. Yes, that can be done with coordination on voice between DPS, but that doesn't mean it's not OP ;) In big, balanced mid fights, you have to sync DPS to get a kill anyways. Having Guard on top of that, and you have a 30 second window otherwise it's just up again?

I don't think anything else in the bracket is quite at the same level as these two.
 
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Thinking of starting a 39 guild on BleedingHollow.

Ally or Horde?

NO Enh Shaman or Feral Druid.

Gold is not a problem.


It has been a long time since I played a 39 twink.

If anyone wants to join in and help let me know.
 
Wow I just posted a couple hours ago and this thread has gone sooo far off topic. In my mind, BM and feral are blacklisted. Enhance should be limited to one per side and stun bombs, lol, really? I have no issue with consumables whatsoever. Now, can we bitch a little less and get back on track? Oh and to address the earlier comment about issues in TS, I can tell you Ally was getting trolled HARD for nearly the whole night. People screaming, making farting sounds, poking me with messages about sucking dick and much more. So despite the trolls, despite the BM's and ferals, we alliance still gave it our all (all 5 of us in TS...).
 
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I sent a message to a moderator asking if some cleaning up could be done on this thread, it's a shame that a handful of people managed to take it so far off course.
 
Oh and to address the earlier comment about issues in TS, I can tell you Ally was getting trolled HARD for nearly the whole night. People screaming, making farting sounds, poking me with messages about sucking dick and much more. So despite the trolls, despite the BM's and ferals, we alliance still gave it our all (all 5 of us in TS...).
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Well, yea, I can see why there was only 5 people in TS. Why should anybody have to put up with that?
 
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