Alliance need to help the bracket

It's kinda sad that alliance decides to kill the queues by running full premades with 2+ BMs/Warriors/Hunters. You alliance players (HARVEST) need to make horde characters to balance it out. Everyone in SR has an alliance character. If you notice games are imbalanced, you should log over and help the faction that needs it.

WHAT HORDE NEEDS:
-Resto Shamans
-BM Monks
-Hunters
-MW Monks

To be completely honest with you man you're just 100% wrong in the statement you just made in every way. We queued priest guardian warlock bm hunter at the max point when we had 5. We only group queued tonight when we knew there were players on the other side that could give competitive games, and finally the majority of our players have toons horde and alliance and are already ahead of you on queuing both factions whether your familiar with their faces or not.

I told my guild mates to kick you from the game on alliance today as well if you want to put a figurehead on that, just lame that you would try to throw games. I can understand your frustration in some of tonight's games as in a few cases tonight our group matched up with a few other players on strong classes, bit out of our control. When we do group queue we want to play a comp that gives us versatility on control over the game.

I know recently people make me out to be the bad guy, which is fine, but in reality I feel I'm a very level headed guy that looks out for the bracket's best interest on a multitude of levels, it's frustrating when we go out of our way to include you in community events like wargames etc and you go out of your way to tarnish my guild mates in and out of game, going to the lengths of preventing them from using their internet... Don't need to explain myself anymore on that matter.

Tldr. Maybe you feel aggrivated with us, but there are things you could be doing (in reality stop doing) that would make for people to give you the same respect. I want to mention I really don't have any beef or issues at all with you outside of the actions you take on my guild mates in and out of game, just wish people like yourself could turn over a new coin for the bracket

Constantly queuing the best POSSIBLE premade is not at all helping the bracket.

Luckily after you guys /afk'ed my feral, Lukenukem had a change of heart and decided to sit out for a game. This is the type of responsibility I respect and I applaud him for doing what he did. Maybe in the future others will be as courteous as Luke.

bigmoran said:

Constantly queuing the best POSSIBLE premade is not at all helping the bracket.

Luckily after you guys /afk'ed my feral, Lukenukem had a change of heart and decided to sit out for a game. This is the type of responsibility I respect and I applaud him for doing what he did. Maybe in the future others will be as courteous as Luke.

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Okay talking to a brick wall. Really thought you would take what I said to heart, but instead you pretty much just reinforced what I previously mentioned and discredited yourself further.

These are just a sample of screenshots from the past week of the comp disparity between alliance and horde.







It's not even remotely competitive.

<HARVEST> needs to step up and help the bracket the bracket that they are destroying. There aren't enough powerhouse players on Horde side to constantly balance out games.

This isn't to say Horde has no responsibility in ensuring the health of the bracket, both factions need to help each other out to ensure games are fair.

Nah I agree with you, it's a rough time atm with certain classes you have already mentioned in the OP being greatly stronger than the rest, I believe it fluctuates throughout the night, every night which side is struggling/doing well depending on who's queuing and what they are queuing on.

People need to take it upon themselves to find ways they can help turn the tides or balance out games, whether it be swapping factions, changing Classes based on what is needed.

Personally I now currently have dps and healers both factions ready to play on, only fc on alliance atm. My personal niche lately has been fcing the majority of the time based on my experience on the Class and how few competent fcs there are available currently in the bracket. I would make one horde as well but Chewie/Randy have that covered no problem so it is on back burner for me atm

Edit: I really would like to mention although it may appear we are group queuing quite often, it's just the fact that our group of players make up a third of alliance population. We don't start group queuing until we see players that can give competitive games form groups, and the majority of us have toons on both factions

That moment when you realize you can't win so you resort to DDOS. So pathetic.

bigmoran said:

<HARVEST> needs to step up and help the bracket the bracket that they are destroying. There aren't enough powerhouse players on Horde side to constantly balance out games.

This isn't to say Horde has no responsibility in ensuring the health of the bracket, both factions need to help each other out to ensure games are fair.

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How often do horde gy farm and not just 3cap. SR often queue multiple people. Relax and let people play the same way you guys do!

The biggest part of the problem is the classes that alliance seems to have. Once again, in almost every game I've been in, Alliance has had one or more BM monks, Warriors, Boomkins, or Hunters.

I understand that there can't be a rigid comp restriction in random games, but its obnoxious to constantly be outgunned by the opposing comp.

I see Ally needing more help than Horde.

Most of the games I play consist of Horde having AT THE LEAST 2 Boomies per game while Ally most of the time have either 1 or none.. Queing up against 3 rogues and 2 Boomies is pretty disgusting. So I'm unsure when you've seen more than one Boomy on an Ally team because I have yet to encounter that.

Any group queuing is bad I thought you guys already decided this?

All that I am going to say is that it is a 19 twink PUG ( Pick up group). This means that teams are RANDOM. Yes a team can Q a 5 man premade. Happens a lot. Both factions. As long as you aren't stacking 3+ BMs or something stupid, I don't see a problem with it. Playing with guildies on Skype is fun. But if you have a 5 man premade of competent players (which harvest happens to have) and you pop into a game with 5 other competent alliance (which alliance sometimes has, sometimes doesn't have), and horde has a random rag-tag team of 2 rogues, warrior, warlock, mage, WW, Boomkin, shaman (not sure spec), and then nastimyt FCing/potentially solo healing, what do you expect? Or just because Blurzz and I get in the same game doesn't mean that we Qued together.
TL;DR When several competent players pop into the same game with a premade group, yes it is going to look steamroll. Hopefully it will be a quick game and a few people from the winning side will log over to the other faction. This goes for both teams.
PS: Double MW is insanely broken.

edit; It appears that horde could use some more healers, as nastimyt seems to be solo-healing in one or two of those screenshots. And as far as which faction has more healers, it is totally random. I can't count how many games I have solo healed. So yeah. There are more factors then just premade vs no premade. Yes they secure 2 heals so they don't end up in an awful game with 10 dps and no healers.

This is partly the reason I've made SSC a horde guild on Bleeding Hollow, Were recruiting btw, need good players who are interested in war gaming, the twink cup, and helping balance out pugs. hmu for an invite Conq#1458

Actually lately horde has had the most op and stupid comps the past week such as 6 healers, 4 boomkins, and even 4 rogues and a lot of the FCS on horde also rogues are always speedpoting which is not fun.

its more obnoxious reading your complaints about HB and harvest. funny that you actually thought making a thread about this would do something

bigmoran said:

The biggest part of the problem is the classes that alliance seems to have. Once again, in almost every game I've been in, Alliance has had one or more BM monks, Warriors, Boomkins, or Hunters.

I understand that there can't be a rigid comp restriction in random games, but its obnoxious to constantly be outgunned by the opposing comp.

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You might not seeing being on horde, but i have been in plenty of games when the horde have 3 boomkins and 2 BM monks or the situation when your team has 5 disc priests and a MW monk so its not just the alliance that needs to balance out the people queing.

breaking news, 19's gy farming and rolling fotm comps.

new and exciting.

You do realize moran, that you could make one of the classes horde needs. I know it might be too huge of a concept for you to grasp, but I'm sure you'll figure it out. It's not alliances fault they know what they're doing. Also, Harvest plays on both sides, I've seen them play both in games. You can get horde to make different chars that will help out and not just rely on ally swapping. Finally, Horde has been winning more games than ally from what I've seen, so idk what you are saying there.

I'd rather have alliance queuing with an unfair team than them not queueing at all tbh.
At least games are poppin now?