Fire shammy
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you can get about 160 spell damage without gimping yourself that much, really no need.
afaik all of a shamans primary spells other than earthshock are fire; flametongue, flame shock & searing totem. Since Earthshock is no longer an interupt its less useful than it was before (debatably) therefore it could be viable to use Fire Spellpower.
However looking at the chardev than you have drawn up you have sacrificed 39 SP on your heals, earthshock and lightning bolt for just 10 fire spellpower against a similar max SP build. Also the build you have drawn up is really quite low on HP and mana so unless you have a pocket healer you will run out of hp, and with a pocket healer you will run out of mana.
In conclusion i dont think stacking fire spellpower is worth it, tho i might do some maths to work out how much 1 sp is worth compared to 1 fire sp to a dps shammy.
However looking at the chardev than you have drawn up you have sacrificed 39 SP on your heals, earthshock and lightning bolt for just 10 fire spellpower against a similar max SP build. Also the build you have drawn up is really quite low on HP and mana so unless you have a pocket healer you will run out of hp, and with a pocket healer you will run out of mana.
In conclusion i dont think stacking fire spellpower is worth it, tho i might do some maths to work out how much 1 sp is worth compared to 1 fire sp to a dps shammy.
Crilicilyn
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its a cool idea and the best thing about twinking is playing a style unique to you. =) do what you like and test everything possible till you find what suits you best.
Healing Power vs Fire Power on gloves, maths inc.
First off the relevant coefficients. For a DPS shammy these are:
Flame Shock: 21.42% + 10% per tick
Searing Totem: 16.67% per tick
Flametongue Weapon: 10%*wep speed (i think, wowwiki inconclusive)
Earthshock: 38.58%
Lightning Shield: 33%
We'll assume that we're not using lightning bolt or fire nova totem since they dont find their way into most rotations.
I'm also going to assume that you're using Glyph of Stoneclaw Totem.
First off Flame shock:
with 20 Fire power dmg done is 0.2142*20 + 4*0.1*20 per 14 secs = 12.3/14 = 0.88 dps
with 16 sp: 0.2142*16 + 4*0.1*16 per 14 secs = 0.7 dps
Searing totem:
20 Fire: 0.1667*20 per 3 secs = 1.13 dps
16 SP: 0.1667*16/3 = 0.89 dps
Flametongue:
20 Fire: 0.1*20*weapon speed (assume wep speed of 1.0) = 2 dps
16 SP: 0.*16*1 = 1.6 dps
Earthshock:
20 Fire: 0 dps
16 SP: 0.3858*16 per 14 secs = 0.44 dps
Lightning Shield:
20 Fire: 0 dps
16 SP: 0.33*16 (assuming 1 every 4 secs) /4 = 1.32 dps
Totals:
DPS from 20 Fire = 4.01
DPS from 16 SP = 4.95
From this it seems that Healing Power on Gloves seems the superior enchant due to a large chunk of dmg coming from lightning shield.
However i can't help but feel that ive missed something. Feedback would be cool.
First off the relevant coefficients. For a DPS shammy these are:
Flame Shock: 21.42% + 10% per tick
Searing Totem: 16.67% per tick
Flametongue Weapon: 10%*wep speed (i think, wowwiki inconclusive)
Earthshock: 38.58%
Lightning Shield: 33%
We'll assume that we're not using lightning bolt or fire nova totem since they dont find their way into most rotations.
I'm also going to assume that you're using Glyph of Stoneclaw Totem.
First off Flame shock:
with 20 Fire power dmg done is 0.2142*20 + 4*0.1*20 per 14 secs = 12.3/14 = 0.88 dps
with 16 sp: 0.2142*16 + 4*0.1*16 per 14 secs = 0.7 dps
Searing totem:
20 Fire: 0.1667*20 per 3 secs = 1.13 dps
16 SP: 0.1667*16/3 = 0.89 dps
Flametongue:
20 Fire: 0.1*20*weapon speed (assume wep speed of 1.0) = 2 dps
16 SP: 0.*16*1 = 1.6 dps
Earthshock:
20 Fire: 0 dps
16 SP: 0.3858*16 per 14 secs = 0.44 dps
Lightning Shield:
20 Fire: 0 dps
16 SP: 0.33*16 (assuming 1 every 4 secs) /4 = 1.32 dps
Totals:
DPS from 20 Fire = 4.01
DPS from 16 SP = 4.95
From this it seems that Healing Power on Gloves seems the superior enchant due to a large chunk of dmg coming from lightning shield.
However i can't help but feel that ive missed something. Feedback would be cool.
Flmaetongue damage was normalised a while ago, so a wep speed of 1.00 does same dps as wep speed of 4.00, however slower weapons do tend to do more dmg in total due to jousting, but in theory the dmg is the same
nah i prefer to get up into peoples faces, gets more dmg in for less mana, and allows you to deal with melee classes more effectively. Sure feel free to cast a couple bolts while healing, but its long cast time means its not really a viable dmg source
Grabco said:
i really did. Still doesnt seem worth it imo since few shammies roll with more than 5-7% spell crit, with buzzer and skinning its still ~10%
Edit: from my maths above flameshock counts for about 14% of dps (not counting white hits). With spell crit of 7% Glyph of Flameshock adds 3.5% dmg to flame shock which calculates to 0.5% more dps in total, which becomes evenless when you factor in white hits. Glyph of Stoneclaw much more useful imo
