5.4 Thoughts - positive and negative comments

Nesyla

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Please share with us what you think about 5.4

Personally i like it, dmg is lower, healing is about the same and i get to live a bit longer against rogues.
 
I had about 4 minutes before work to log in to my mage to see my shitty enchant and profession procs and concluded that my mage is now shit and probably can't solo Onyxia anymore. Will have to see when I get home.

That is all I've had time for so far.
 
80s pvp is still horrible, and now you cant even enjoy solo pve stuff anymore.. wow i rly thought the patch would be good
 
does the ice lance hurt? or is it roghly the same?
btw im gonna have to stay inactive for a while.. work is being a bitch theese days and i can hardly catch any sleep.. will still make those chardevs for you [MENTION=8235]Nesyla[/MENTION] just need a little time :/
btw thoghts on jc>bs/all ?
 
Closing now, gonna go home and test the shit out of it.
I'll keep you posted on what I think.

Good boy.

does the ice lance hurt? or is it roghly the same?
btw im gonna have to stay inactive for a while.. work is being a bitch theese days and i can hardly catch any sleep.. will still make those chardevs for you Nesyla just need a little time :/
btw thoghts on jc>bs/all ?

that's great, thank you !

There is lots of stuff to check, specially enchants and gems !

Think best atm is jc / bs or perhaps alch ( trinket dident get changed ) and herb even tbh, gotta check if lifeblood scales or not.
 
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I'm not sure what nerfs made it to live but I tried Onyxia 25 today on my level 80 paladin and my survivability felt noticeably worse. I didn't bother putting up with the trash so I switched it to 10 and noticed that I was going OOM at points thanks to AS costing twice as much now. I lost a huge chunk of health, 12% parry, and probably a lot more I didn't notice. Btw Windsong gives 150 rating at 80. What's better now?

Was there a big Sacred Shield nerf? I feel like my paladin is taking a ton more damage now.
 
Damage feels pretty unchanged at 85 but I think arena is going to be even more shit, with battle fatigue now at 55% up from 45% healer specs will be even more redundant at 85, meh.
 
So far things feel pretty similar on my 85 hunter, in BG's damage seems to have gone up even because enchants and gems still seem to scale to same levels, which coupled to battle fatigue means damage output is even more ridiculous then before.

Outside of BG the burst is slightly less cause of lower scaling enchants/gems and procs (though trinkets remained the same) but the dps loss is offset by the damage buff to main shots, so doing similar average dps. Still able to solo stuff like warbringers.
 
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so now, cata epic gems is the only way?
what about the enchants?
 
carefull now, in bg's it all scales up.
but yes, most of your enchants and gems are most likely gonna have to change for anything else.

Looks like optimally we would have to make 2 seperate PVP gear sets, one for BG's using mop gems/enchants and one for arena/world with cata epic gems and a selection of enchants which still have to be fully tested.
 
Bonuses from level 600 professions were gutted by 90% for level 80s so 480 crit rating turns into 48, 500 to bracers turns into 50, etc. I went from 99.98% crit/158%mastery/124% haste self-buffed to 56.98% crit and gutted haste. Mastery is around 90%. This is an elemental.
DPS is noticeably lower, perhaps by 30% or so.

BGs are still just as terrible.
 

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