19lvl paladin, dps or heal?
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its all up to u about what u want to be dps or healing that is.
belf's got arcane torment which makes them superb at offense(dps) and in 1v1's vs casters.
but i must honestly say alliance has the 2 races best fitted being holy, human's & draenei's.
go draenor, blackout. faction is ur choice also, but we're really in need of alliance for wsg's.
belf's got arcane torment which makes them superb at offense(dps) and in 1v1's vs casters.
but i must honestly say alliance has the 2 races best fitted being holy, human's & draenei's.
go draenor, blackout. faction is ur choice also, but we're really in need of alliance for wsg's.
Llare
your dad
Llare said:
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Humans = best paladin race if your a dedicated Holy Paladin.
Draenei's have HoT, which provides some OTT heals; but vs Warriors/Hunters, where you need to keep pressure on after you BoF their Hamstring/Conc/Wingclip, whether it's to down the pet or to just stop a band, you need to pop your Trinket. The same'll happen later on, and if you don't have that 2min trinket, your opponent will just gain the upper hand + keep pressure. Could argue that GotN lets you keep more time on target instead of having to HoJ+Band, but then take into account multiple Sheeping/Fearing there's no real option. Yes you can throw your GotN on your partner before the CC gets cast but with, say Warlock/Mage, they'll have so much burst on your partner. You'll end up having to pop trinket anyway. Sure any good Warlock is going to cast another Fear after the first has hit, but the 4/6secs gives your partner so much less time to survive in. Later on in the fight your Racial'll be ready to use.
Draenei's are alot more WSG friendly, but still get shat on in tight situations. And yes, FC Ally.
inb4 tl;dr
Llare
your dad
Stunggix said:
Ah;
normal Honor Trinket then
Outrunner's Chestguard of the Eagle (+5stam +5int 180armor) w/ +4stats on chest
Talbar Mantle
Butcher's Slicer w/+22int to Wep
A 2nd Butcher's Slicer/Shadowfang w/+30SP to wep
Butcher's Slicer>Night Watch Shortsword is obvious due to the +str +dmg, since you still beat down. +can get some beasty crits.
Llare
your dad
Personally, Inferno Robe with 6 stats seems now like a waste to me. I'd much rather take +7mp5 on it, and get more 3/3 Eagle Bracers with +5mp5 and then finally 4mp5 on Arctic Buckler. All that +BoW (10mp5) leads to some proper nice regen + Judgement of Wisdom.
Tree Bark Jacket on any Paladin = awfully bad. The extra stats might make it appealing; but just the fact it's cloth, and once the mana's burned through it's a liability due to the low armor compaed with Mail Eagle Chest. Only other, non BoA, option for chest is Inferno Robe +7mp5. All depends on how your end Health/Mana pools are. With Mail Eagle Chest + other items I stated you should be at 1.3kish HP 1.5kish Mana and, for non BoA, about 45-54 SP; also not much mp5 at all, 22 or so from BoW.
Swap items around and you'll be sitting at say 1.05-1.15k Health, 1.3-1.4k Mana about 50 SP again (loss of +15sp to Bracers) and almost 45mp5; however, alot less Armor. More vunerable to Melee Dps classes also. Get both sets of items and see what you prefer.
All those numbers were off the top of my head; been a while since I played HolyPally with no BoA's. If anyone cares to correct me with CharDevs then go for it; I cba ;>
Tree Bark Jacket on any Paladin = awfully bad. The extra stats might make it appealing; but just the fact it's cloth, and once the mana's burned through it's a liability due to the low armor compaed with Mail Eagle Chest. Only other, non BoA, option for chest is Inferno Robe +7mp5. All depends on how your end Health/Mana pools are. With Mail Eagle Chest + other items I stated you should be at 1.3kish HP 1.5kish Mana and, for non BoA, about 45-54 SP; also not much mp5 at all, 22 or so from BoW.
Swap items around and you'll be sitting at say 1.05-1.15k Health, 1.3-1.4k Mana about 50 SP again (loss of +15sp to Bracers) and almost 45mp5; however, alot less Armor. More vunerable to Melee Dps classes also. Get both sets of items and see what you prefer.
All those numbers were off the top of my head; been a while since I played HolyPally with no BoA's. If anyone cares to correct me with CharDevs then go for it; I cba ;>
Megumi
OG
This is what I roll with: The World of Warcraft Armory - Critney @ Azgalor - Profile mp5 is a nice, but I prefer to go with this setup since I never really have trouble getting to rejuv hut or drinking. I think it'd be much better if you're constantly in combat (i.e. healing the FC) or doing arenas.
Llare
your dad
Megumi said:
Don't Rogues/Warriors shit on you? And all I've been talking about really is Arena. In WSG you can get away with anything vs bad teams, except not having Minor Speed to boots. Get it.
Gold Flecked + 16sp are fine if you want to bump up your SP. Jutebraid>Gold Flecked obviously
Bracers are horrible I'm afraid.
Wrong Enchant on Shield; can't stand Paladin's that think it's useful at all.
Cape's good for WSG.
Don't like the Legs, but I can see why you're wearing.
With such low Hp you thought of switching Seal of Slyvannus for Lavishly?
Probably weren't looking for questions/rating; is what I do. Can't possibly do Arena in that gear though.
lindenkron
OG
Megumi said:
Thick Bronze Necklace - Item - World of Warcraft
Mystical Pauldrons of Elements - Item - World of Warcraft
Tumultuous Cloak - Item - World of Warcraft of the Sorcerer // of the Elder. (Recommend +10 SR, but +5 all resist is rather decent for a bloodelf).
Inferno Robe - Item - World of Warcraft (possibly 7 mp5) // Mystical Vest of Elements - Item - World of Warcraft +4 stats
Fortified Bracers - Item - World of Warcraft of the Eagle +3 +3. +15 SP / 9 stamina / 5 MP5
Jutebraid Gloves - Item - World of Warcraft // Defender Gauntlets - Item - World of Warcraft of the Eagle +4 +4. - +16 Spell Power.
Earthbound Girdle - Item - World of Warcraft of the Sorcerer
Defender Leggings - Item - World of Warcraft of the Eagle +5 +5. (There is Grunt's legs as well, but they look shit. More armor though!
)Defender Boots - Item - World of Warcraft of the Eagle +4 +4. (Some prefer Spidersilk Boots - Item - World of Warcraft) +Minor Speed
Seal of Sylvanas - Item - World of Warcraft HP Boost.
Inherited Insignia of the Horde - Item - World of Warcraft Instead of SP trinket.
Devout Aurastone Hammer - Item - World of Warcraft with +22 int on. Higher start Mana Pool. (You get the MP5 on both weapons as a paladin using BoAs)
-> swap to
The Blessed Hammer of Grace - Item - World of Warcraft with +30 SP on. No int lost, resilience gained, same MP5 and same stamina.
Forest Buckler - Item - World of Warcraft with +7 stamina on for start (if you really want to use it)
-> swap to
Arctic Buckler - Item - World of Warcraft with +4 MP5/HP5
I'd suggest swapping shield + 1-h at the same time, using the Equipment Manager implimented into the World of Warcraft interface. Sets can be bound to a hotkey, and made so it's only weapons it is changing. Play around with it for a bit.
Also, it is extremely important to have Herbalism on a Paladin. Skinning is not really essential.
MP5 is viable, especially if stacked with robe and on a paladin. It ruins some other stats though, so you need to make sure the comb you're running arena with can support your lack of survival, in trade for having a hard time running OOM.
If I missed anything, please let me know
.Best regards,
suzzane
OG
i like to use voice apli on my pala, if i dont get the fake cast its always nice to regain healing ability faster,
and the weapons i used this this:
Devout Aura stone hammer +22 & Deadskull shield (sometimes i change straight to forest buckler depending on opponents)
th i switch to Devout Aura stone hammer +30sp (you said you loose int, using this WG mace your loosing the base int of DAH, and i prefer to have at least 1.2k-1.3k mana with sp wep)
at the time i switch to 30 sp weapon i change to froest buckler (or like i said b4 i sometimes use from start)
and then finally if its a long hauled fight and im actually using mana i switch to arctic buckler 4mp5/4hp5 (usually if i go below 1000 mana)
+ stack defeder boots, defender gloves hitting around 1.8k armor, very nice
and the weapons i used this this:
Devout Aura stone hammer +22 & Deadskull shield (sometimes i change straight to forest buckler depending on opponents)
th i switch to Devout Aura stone hammer +30sp (you said you loose int, using this WG mace your loosing the base int of DAH, and i prefer to have at least 1.2k-1.3k mana with sp wep)
at the time i switch to 30 sp weapon i change to froest buckler (or like i said b4 i sometimes use from start)
and then finally if its a long hauled fight and im actually using mana i switch to arctic buckler 4mp5/4hp5 (usually if i go below 1000 mana)
+ stack defeder boots, defender gloves hitting around 1.8k armor, very nice
Grabco
OG
suzzane said:i like to use voice apli on my pala, if i dont get the fake cast its always nice to regain healing ability faster,
and the weapons i used this this:
Devout Aura stone hammer +22 & Deadskull shield (sometimes i change straight to forest buckler depending on opponents)
th i switch to Devout Aura stone hammer +30sp (you said you loose int, using this WG mace your loosing the base int of DAH, and i prefer to have at least 1.2k-1.3k mana with sp wep)
at the time i switch to 30 sp weapon i change to froest buckler (or like i said b4 i sometimes use from start)
and then finally if its a long hauled fight and im actually using mana i switch to arctic buckler 4mp5/4hp5 (usually if i go below 1000 mana)
+ stack defeder boots, defender gloves hitting around 1.8k armor, very nice
defender boots are nice but the spellpower on the spidersilk is just too good to pass up, sticking with the 1 piece of non-mail armor rule I usually use those as my cloth piece.
I also like Mystical Vest of Elements - Item - World of Warcraft with 100hp enchant just because it makes you harder to kill.
lindenkron
OG
suzzane said:
I have 1205 mana without int weapon, using the Resillience PvP 1-h mace, and MP5 Arctic buckler shield.