Goesid
Twink Info Legend
atleast youre honest.For anyone mad that they can't stomp on levelers anymore, just consider 20s the new levelers for 29s to abuseHow the turn tables
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Do you support the recent queue separation for the 20-29 bracket?
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Bop
Remember the Treeline
It's pretty bold to assume every f2play that ever pressed the "join battle" button was a result of your effort.
Point being that as long as free players hit 20 and keep hitting that button (for whatever reason) games could pop for 29. Tho not as steady and plentiful as levelers, if they want to try PvP the f2play cant just skip the bracket to avoid getting twinked.
Yeah they'll keep queueing into you! I'm sure, man!
They'll do it! You'll still have a bracket. Don't worry, your toons are safe. You can play them again.
You have a home now.
Just believe.
Supäcow
Member
It's pretty bold to assume every f2play that ever pressed the "join battle" button was a result of your effort.
Point being that as long as free players hit 20 and keep hitting that button (for whatever reason) games could pop for 29. Tho not as steady and plentiful as levelers, if they want to try PvP the f2play cant just skip the bracket to avoid getting twinked.
What percentage of brand new free to play players que battlegrounds without knowing what they're doing? Kiss 29s goodbye.
Warglave
Veteran
I dont need them to, I have plenty to keep me busy on my paid account, not to mention wrath classic (also paid).
Beyond that, I didnt need them to anyway cuz it's not really my cup of tea to queue forever for stompfests and gyard farms. It doesnt NEED to benefit me to compel my arguments, it is what it is and anyone claiming otherwise is bonkers.
In fact.... Wrath prepatch is supposed to hit today in a few hours. That in itself is oodles to keep you occupied for a measly $15 a month or gold equivalent. If it's not your bag then there's tons of PvE content to experience in WoW F2play trial.
Point being, nothing is over save some whiny kids access to levelers. That's all the last week of discussion has cleared up.
Like they care? If next week is same as last week, how's that different for them? At least they had this week...
Anyone investing in the new bracket is clearly a fool, why are you even trying to reason with that? LMAO.
imfao
Member
Your weird aggression doesn't improve your logic. The harder you can stomp on a f2p leveler, the more enticed they become to twink. That's my preferred recruitment method, not some silly link haha
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Supäcow
Member
Now that levelers have been separated, there isn't a resource to continue building the twinking community from. This means no new level 20 twinks to even learn about 29 twinking.
So as current twinks get pulled away from the game for irl stuff, bracket leadership has NO new players to replace them with.
Supäcow
Member
Recruiting EXISTING paid players in attempt to get them to SETTLE for less than they paid for is insane.....Smh
Merlin
Grandfathered
Most of these 29s are current 20 players.. They are not some new players who decided they want to join this bracket cos farming 20s is fun.. Just that these 20s happen to have active accounts and they are using this to their advantage.. To blizzard they do not need to please this group of free playing 20s, whether they decided to stop playing all together it doesn't impact blizz P/L .. It's a different story for the 29s accounts
20s will always be there, this group ain't gonna die out.. because they don't need to pay to play .. they need to put in more effort as they are no longer the apex.. bg is group, not individual, and I see people group to join bg, bg is as balance as ever, better than before.. There are not many 29s around at all.. Just a few, you will not find a lot of 29 in the future too.. Nobody will pay an account simply to play only 29
20s will always be there, this group ain't gonna die out.. because they don't need to pay to play .. they need to put in more effort as they are no longer the apex.. bg is group, not individual, and I see people group to join bg, bg is as balance as ever, better than before.. There are not many 29s around at all.. Just a few, you will not find a lot of 29 in the future too.. Nobody will pay an account simply to play only 29
JadeFire
Worthless
I mean to be fair you could just make a leveler and spam the "come make a 29, I'll dungeon run you and pay for gear"... though it 100% wont have the same effect with out seeing twinks smoking people... that is what gets people interested: "I can be an overgeared asshole too!?"... and with out being able to visually see it you will just be viewed as a crazy person spamming the chat.
Most people do know what Twinks are... the % of people who have no idea what WoW is and just make a new account are EXTREMLY LOW.
Most people do know what Twinks are... the % of people who have no idea what WoW is and just make a new account are EXTREMLY LOW.
Supäcow
Member
I did level a druid (level 34 Supä) through the 20-29 xp on bgs. What I found was levelers leaving the battlegrounds early because they were facing too many hunters on the Alliance team (their words not mine). Players leveling their 29 twinks were also upsetting the levelers.
Three completely lopsided bgs and I was out of the bracket and into the next.
The only option to save this bracket is:
1.) Stay on level 20 free to play only, sub that one month for upgrades and back to F2P.
2.) Stop making pre-made groups for free to plays with paid accounts. Supäcow stopped pre grouping months ago when Divided - Cenarian Circle alerted me to others (Alliance) concerns about it. That's when I realized our bracket had become a racket.
3.) Blend in with trial accounts by only selecting "Random Battleground" and not selecting specific ones that group to many twinks in one bg. By selecting random it puts the blame on Blizzard for having too many Twinks in one battleground and not our communities as a whole.
4.) Do not particiapte in a "Cross Faction" community. It was Blizzard's first step in diluting the free to play twink community across the board while getting accurate numbers on us to figure in a future change. It is called Hegelian Dialectic. https://areweallreallyeducated.com/hegelian-dialectic/
5.) Stop accidentally leveling to 21 and filing a ticket for fixing an account that earns blizzard no money to fix. The experience on off NPC was never bugged, players just didn't have a clue what they were doing. I can think of three twink toons that leveled to 21 in the past month and Blizzard didn't revert them.
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Kaxle
OG
https://xpoff.com/threads/lord-axioms-2v2-arena-tournament.83641/ throwback to the last time 29s tried to have an arena tourny
JadeFire
Worthless
I was leveling though the other day... there are people... quite a bit actually... that you can tell are using heirlooms, but stacking at least decent greens... and just basically just twinking the bracket... they get to 29 then just reroll... even seen some xpoff exploiters.
That should just be the new twinking subforum... 20s XPON Heirlooms/Chants and Highmountain Greens! You can't stop this leveler killing train, son! - and I only say that because the 19s are for actual insane people.
troublesomesleeper
Veteran
With the removal of levelers queues have gotten longer, and will continue to increase due to lack of participation. Why will people not want to participate in a bracket solely populated by twinks? Once the novelty wears off and they get to experience firsthand how burst-y and imbalanced the pvp is - the enthusiasm for a fresh new bracket will start to fall off.
The same thing would of happened if the bracket were only vets/f2ps and no levelers.
With old 27s - many of whom have grandfathered gear, and the new batch of 29s added to the pool the amount of broken classes and items has increased. So now instead of having to only worry about how many dirty hunter mofos are on the enemy team, you also have to watch out for; arcane mage, destro locks, balance druids, balefire trinket openly available (only the summoned scum had it before) and dark iron pulverizers.
The more things that are imbalanced the worse the bracket is, because the chances are higher you will run into it on the next queue pop.
Instead of doing the right thing; balance the outliers from 10-60 to the benefit of everyone, twinks and levelers. Actiblizz has chosen to go with the lazy + inept route of just brush the issue under the rug (remove twinks from general pool) and ignore the balance issues.
Will subbing to the game address any of the imbalance issues - nope.
The same thing would of happened if the bracket were only vets/f2ps and no levelers.
With old 27s - many of whom have grandfathered gear, and the new batch of 29s added to the pool the amount of broken classes and items has increased. So now instead of having to only worry about how many dirty hunter mofos are on the enemy team, you also have to watch out for; arcane mage, destro locks, balance druids, balefire trinket openly available (only the summoned scum had it before) and dark iron pulverizers.
The more things that are imbalanced the worse the bracket is, because the chances are higher you will run into it on the next queue pop.
Instead of doing the right thing; balance the outliers from 10-60 to the benefit of everyone, twinks and levelers. Actiblizz has chosen to go with the lazy + inept route of just brush the issue under the rug (remove twinks from general pool) and ignore the balance issues.
Will subbing to the game address any of the imbalance issues - nope.
JadeFire
Worthless
I do 100% agree that the allure of FTP/Vets has always been killing levelers and that only 1-2% of those twinks give 1 actual fuck about facing each other (and those that do have arena builds and not open pvp glass cannon builds)... and even more so actually don't want to face each other, especially when there are not levelers to blame for a loss, because then you can only blame yourself for being terrible.
So even if everybody was 20 and not 29... the bracket would still die off because there is no chaff/levelers to farm.
troublesomesleeper
Veteran
Being able to play meme builds against the levelers was fun as well. Against the twink stacked teams though - #gylife
Warglave
Veteran
troublesomesleeper
Veteran
Are you comparing a leveler to a 20 or 29 twink? Ok then.....
Supäcow
Member
https://areweallreallyeducated.com/hegelian-dialectic/
This is what Blizzard is doing to wipe out your twink community or force them to pay to play for less content than the more content others enjoy, mainly newer players who haven't been around 15 years.
This is what Blizzard is doing to wipe out your twink community or force them to pay to play for less content than the more content others enjoy, mainly newer players who haven't been around 15 years.
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