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Opening this thread as a general discussion for how people are feeling by the arguably 2 most "busted" things that are causing twinks to be so powerful in the upcoming Shadow Lands expansion.
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My take:
Pvp Gems: Make lower level twinking absolutely insane. We're currently seeing 10-19 twinks with about 60-80% crit on ptr while having the main stat of the average level 40. Shit's broken... but insanely fun. It gives me flash backs of MoP lvl 80/85 twinking, everyone one shotting other ppl and it being a shit show, but interesting none the less. The only issue I have with these gems being available to lower levels are that there are only +5 Intel/+5 Crit and +5 Agil/+5 Crit gems purchasable for 1 mark of honor. The +5 strength/+5 crit gem is no where to be found. (Unless you are high enough level to run heroic BC dungeons where you can loot +5 str +4 crit gems, Avail @hopfully 27 (even tho ptr rn says 30)). Yes I did a parenthesis inside a parenthesis...HOWEVER, the reason that I'm still okay with this is because the weapon enchant "crusador" still procs for 100 str at any level. Thus, giving strength classes there own "broken" tool under the 29th level threshold.
However, while the crusader enchant does even the playing fields, I would prefer blizzard just add a +5 Str/ +5 crit gem and nerf the enchant.
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Whitemend/Spellfire: Well, I'll just start by saying anyone who knows me in game and/or has tuned into the 80-89 tournaments that I've hosted knows that, even on live, I hate this set. However, not due to the clothies that wear it. It's more the whitemend/spellfire abusing resto druids/MW monks that make the game unfun/unfair for a lot of other classes.
Now for the SL side of things. With a new item coming out in shadowlands, this set will be available for craft at every 5th level after 15 (correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I've heard) including all the way up to 50. On PTR right now, there are level 50s running around with this set topping charts. This set gives a super heavy bonus to anyone who is able to benefit from spell power, not just clothies (as seen on live with mw monks/rdruids). Basically making this set baseline for at least 1/2 of the twink population in SL. Thus also making it a very caster heavy meta. At least, those are my predictions anyhow.
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"But Kane," you say, "Didn't you just say that you love that MOP feeling of one shotting people? Why do you hate whitemend/spellfire so much?" Well, thank's for asking. As previously mentioned I don't hate the gameplay it inspires, I only hate the fact that that type of gameplay isnt available to everyone. Not even everyone, because there's always a few left out, but a majority of classes. If you really are a hard pressed melee player, then there is a chance you're class is just obsolete due to this set existing and thus not being able to play the class you want to play. In brackets other than the 10-29s, the gems will not have as much of a crazy scaling impact as something like this set will. And the weapon enchant "Crusader" will not close the power gap between such classes.
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TLDR: If I were in charge of the small indie company named Activision Blizzard, I would deactivate the set like they have with so many of the tier sets and make +5 Main Stat + 5 Crit gems available to all class types
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Anyways, that's my opinion. What other thoughts/comments do you guys have on the upcoming twink scene in SL?
Also, what brackets do you plan on playing?
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My take:
Pvp Gems: Make lower level twinking absolutely insane. We're currently seeing 10-19 twinks with about 60-80% crit on ptr while having the main stat of the average level 40. Shit's broken... but insanely fun. It gives me flash backs of MoP lvl 80/85 twinking, everyone one shotting other ppl and it being a shit show, but interesting none the less. The only issue I have with these gems being available to lower levels are that there are only +5 Intel/+5 Crit and +5 Agil/+5 Crit gems purchasable for 1 mark of honor. The +5 strength/+5 crit gem is no where to be found. (Unless you are high enough level to run heroic BC dungeons where you can loot +5 str +4 crit gems, Avail @hopfully 27 (even tho ptr rn says 30)). Yes I did a parenthesis inside a parenthesis...HOWEVER, the reason that I'm still okay with this is because the weapon enchant "crusador" still procs for 100 str at any level. Thus, giving strength classes there own "broken" tool under the 29th level threshold.
However, while the crusader enchant does even the playing fields, I would prefer blizzard just add a +5 Str/ +5 crit gem and nerf the enchant.
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Whitemend/Spellfire: Well, I'll just start by saying anyone who knows me in game and/or has tuned into the 80-89 tournaments that I've hosted knows that, even on live, I hate this set. However, not due to the clothies that wear it. It's more the whitemend/spellfire abusing resto druids/MW monks that make the game unfun/unfair for a lot of other classes.
Now for the SL side of things. With a new item coming out in shadowlands, this set will be available for craft at every 5th level after 15 (correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I've heard) including all the way up to 50. On PTR right now, there are level 50s running around with this set topping charts. This set gives a super heavy bonus to anyone who is able to benefit from spell power, not just clothies (as seen on live with mw monks/rdruids). Basically making this set baseline for at least 1/2 of the twink population in SL. Thus also making it a very caster heavy meta. At least, those are my predictions anyhow.
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"But Kane," you say, "Didn't you just say that you love that MOP feeling of one shotting people? Why do you hate whitemend/spellfire so much?" Well, thank's for asking. As previously mentioned I don't hate the gameplay it inspires, I only hate the fact that that type of gameplay isnt available to everyone. Not even everyone, because there's always a few left out, but a majority of classes. If you really are a hard pressed melee player, then there is a chance you're class is just obsolete due to this set existing and thus not being able to play the class you want to play. In brackets other than the 10-29s, the gems will not have as much of a crazy scaling impact as something like this set will. And the weapon enchant "Crusader" will not close the power gap between such classes.
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TLDR: If I were in charge of the small indie company named Activision Blizzard, I would deactivate the set like they have with so many of the tier sets and make +5 Main Stat + 5 Crit gems available to all class types
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Anyways, that's my opinion. What other thoughts/comments do you guys have on the upcoming twink scene in SL?
Also, what brackets do you plan on playing?