Official R18 Premade Rules

escape artis is dog it has .5 second cast and the slow just gets reapplied if ur playing someone competent
will of forsaken is only way to get out of priest fear which is most broken cc at 19

Escape artist isn't dog if you are competent.

Scream has 30 sec cd and an 8 yard radius for only 2 people, do mortars have a limit on how many people it stuns?
 
Escape artist isn't dog if you are competent.

Scream has 30 sec cd and an 8 yard radius for only 2 people, do mortars have a limit on how many people it stuns?

Theres a class called warlock mate. Also if you stacking like idiots and get hit with one mortar you need to /delete game.
 
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Theres a class called warlock mate. Also if you stacking like idiots and get hit with one mortar you need to /delete game.

Warlock fear can be dispelled and is single target mate. Also I can't think of a single situation at 19 where multiple people would be stacked and a mortar would be beneficial.
 
Escape artist isn't dog if you are competent.

Scream has 30 sec cd and an 8 yard radius for only 2 people, do mortars have a limit on how many people it stuns?
escape artist is good when its instat cast like it is on live sure, get on a gnome stand still still with a hunter or war on u with push back and cast ur .5 second escape artist and tell me how far u get b4 ur clipped again lol

lets compare racials real qucik lol … aoe stun 5% hp ,blood furry 25% stun resist, WoF 10 shadow resist and troll zerk vs percepton(LOL) stoneform,10 frost resist ,EA 10 arcane 15 eng, Shadowmeld (LOL)

Horde wins by miles and has the only ranged interrupt in the game lol and u wanna complain about a bomb that's not instant btw u can just cast while moving (basically a ranged warstomp)
Racials have never been banned in premades b4 idk why u wanna start now XD

https://gyazo.com/4f19b1f6d759b178c62d2213e073cc9b
 
i dont think having two priests dispelling on O is game breaking at all. if a guild runs 2 priests on O then you bring 2 mages or an extra hunter on D to counter. if a guild doesnt want to play our group because we 'have the possibility to bring double dispells on O'.. thus leaving us with 1 healer on D then whatever. lots of groups willing to play all the time. play someone else. if a guild wants to use 3 hunters vs us, we wont care either.

these rules are pointless mostly. the two groups will decide what to use before hand and outside opinions of what you can and cant use arent going to affect our games. magic dust is the only game breaking consumable at 19
 
escape artist is good when its instat cast like it is on live sure, get on a gnome stand still still with a hunter or war on u with push back and cast ur .5 second escape artist and tell me how far u get b4 ur clipped again lol

lets compare racials real qucik lol … aoe stun 5% hp ,blood furry 25% stun resist, WoF 10 shadow resist and troll zerk vs percepton(LOL) stoneform,10 frost resist ,EA 10 arcane 15 eng, Shadowmeld (LOL)

Horde wins by miles and has the only ranged interrupt in the game lol and u wanna complain about a bomb that's not instant btw u can just cast while moving (basically a ranged warstomp)
Racials have never been banned in premades b4 idk why u wanna start now XD

https://gyazo.com/4f19b1f6d759b178c62d2213e073cc9b

I'm not advocating for banning anything. The general consensus of any serious organized premade will have both leaders in a call and hash out rules, like it has always been done.

My point is the best premades have been those with the least amount of consumables. It's amusing that some downplay the overall effect of an instant cast (instant cast defined as 0 cast time) stun has on an outcome of a game.

Saying "but you have x y z racials bro, and you so strong with all your passive racials.. this balances it out" doesn't change anything. Comparing passive racials is pointless (they're passive). You have the ability to use or not to use a consumable.
 
gnome eng is a passive racial lol , u either allow both bombs or allow none

calling it instant makes it sound more op then it is, its not instant.. its the same as a ranged warstomp
 
Warlock fear can be dispelled and is single target mate. Also I can't think of a single situation at 19 where multiple people would be stacked and a mortar would be beneficial.

Ok but since 80% of priests are undead mate it makes it a pain in the ass to fear them with that racial. Heres the deal we'll get rid of the bombs if we agree to ban the undead racial. Alliance prolly ain't gonna budge on this mate. KO is right gnome engineering is a passive racial.
 
Should we take away enchanting since we can’t do it ourselves? IMO anything obtainable to my character in the game is allowed. Minus out of bounds jumps which will get you banned anyway.
Don’t be lazy?..
 
can 32yr old dads coming back to wow from wrath stop commenting like their opinion is worth anything, your opinion wasnt worth anything back in 2009 it's definitely worth even less in 2019

these rules are open to discussion by actual guild leaders/members who are actually intending to premade, not people trying to recapture their youth by killing levellers after putting their kids to bed irl.

stop this 'we used to do it like this back in the day' mindset, the game has moved on, you'll see how far the game has moved on as soon as you schedule a game against people who never quit when levellers were removed.

thanks for listening.
 
these rules are pointless mostly. the two groups will decide what to use before hand

Yuppp though it's still like 4 people arguing over the rules an entire bracket, most of which isn't even on here. Y'all expending too much effort making rules when it could be spent fighting twinkers
 
stop this 'we used to do it like this back in the day' mindset, the game has moved on, you'll see how far the game has moved on as soon as you schedule a game against people who never quit when levellers were removed.

thanks for listening.

While I didn't play pserver, I quit back in the day due to not being in a huge guild thus my queues being insane. Now I am in a guild gearing up to do premades, and play in games with one of the other biggest twink guilds there are on classic, who indeed had a pserver presence these last two years.

this is obviously not about stomping levelers, but you would already know that if you had read my posts.
 
I agree with these rules other than the no healer limit, for the most part these were same premade rules in wotlk/cata and they were a pretty big success
 
at the end of the day as people have been saying, while i personally liked our premade rules in wotlk, its up to the guild masters before the game that are going to be playing each other that day, there wasn't a consensus of premade rules in wotlk either those were just the rules most guilds had agreed to back then.
 
escape artis is dog it has .5 second cast and the slow just gets reapplied if ur playing someone competent
will of forsaken is only way to get out of priest fear which is most broken cc at 19
EA is not dog depending on class, paired with slow/snare breaker trinket you can literally get away from any class except maybe frost mage since trinket is off GCD

not entirely related but I have a weird obsession with defending gnomes
 
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