EU 110 Speed twink , need some suggestions

lebronze

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Greetings everyone , after watching some youtubers tmog farming with speedy speedy druids I decided to give it a go . However I have some problems/questions hoping to get answers here ;


1) Is gear with +Speed even worth it ? Or should I focus for items with High Crit for secondary stat/ Haste for energy regen ?

2) What % my highest secondary stat should be to get full 4% from longstider ? ( I got 300ilvl ones )

3) Am I better off using Ekowrath instead of Sephuz/Sentinel ?

4) I see that Swiftness Potion and Nitro Belt Boost uses same cooldown , which one Im better off using ?

5) Am I better off using Swiftness Potion/Belt Boost/Young Drake's Impulse/Stampeding Roar together in a macro ? Having to click 1 button instead or 3 is lazier but am I missing out on anything ?

6) Rightnow Im using Windwalk enchanted Staff with Haste for energy regen , am I better off using Walking Stick ? As far as I see it doesnt give any ms .


Also I'd be very happy if you guys take a look at my armory and make suggestions because Im having hard time understanding how this works

My armory : Husamog-Argent Dawn EU ( Sorry I can't post links in first 2 posts )
 
I'm fairly new to speed twinking but I'll try answer some of these:

1) Yes, it is worth it as long as you can maintain the needed secondary % for max effect from longstrider traits. At 111 it's 31%, probably the same for 110s. It sees some heavy diminishing returns past 100-150, so don't bother stacking it high. You can have Bear tartare anyways for a short burst of 250 speed which will take you well into DR territory. See this - https://i.imgur.com/rMFLmYU.png - for a rough guide of how the DRs are at 111, should be very similar to 110s.

2) At 111 the tooltip for a 300 ilvl longstrider says "by up to 13% of your highest stat, up to 4%". 13% of 31% is 4.03%, so you need 31%. If the tooltip is different at 110, do the math yourself.

3) Ekowraith is 11.25% runspeed (but costs you 4% from longstrider on chest). Sephuz is 10% + a sprint on stun/cc/dispel. Sentinel is 25% stacked, however you lose 8% from minor boot speed enchant not being applicable, HOWEVER you can get the same effect on your weapon via the cenarion expedition walking stick. For pure passive speed, eko + sephuz is best. For proc-based speed sephuz + Sentinel

4) Don't know, sorry. Should be easy to test though.

5) Again don't know - if they stack additively it won't matter. If they stack multiplicatively, then you should stack them. Test and find out!

6) Walking stick is a weapon version of the minor speed boots enchant (8%).That's all. Don't use it.

7) A non-feral druid with feral affinity has about 33% more energy regen than feral druids (but of course no OoC procs). Since you will probably want to keep stamp roar, then a guardian druid with feral affinity might be your best bet if you want to go that route.
[doublepost=1576255530,1576255130][/doublepost]I also checked your armory - while I can't see your 2nd ring (i assume it's sephuz), you are missing either one or both of the 5% and 3% speed gems - Straddling Viridium and Straddling Sage Agate.
 
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villiansv said:
I'm fairly new to speed twinking but I'll try answer some of these:

1) Yes, it is worth it as long as you can maintain the needed secondary % for max effect from longstrider traits. At 111 it's 31%, probably the same for 110s. It sees some heavy diminishing returns past 100-150, so don't bother stacking it high. You can have Bear tartare anyways for a short burst of 250 speed which will take you well into DR territory. See this - https://i.imgur.com/rMFLmYU.png - for a rough guide of how the DRs are at 111, should be very similar to 110s.

2) At 111 the tooltip for a 300 ilvl longstrider says "by up to 13% of your highest stat, up to 4%". 13% of 31% is 4.03%, so you need 31%. If the tooltip is different at 110, do the math yourself.

3) Ekowraith is 11.25% runspeed (but costs you 4% from longstrider on chest). Sephuz is 10% + a sprint on stun/cc/dispel. Sentinel is 25% stacked, however you lose 8% from minor boot speed enchant not being applicable, HOWEVER you can get the same effect on your weapon via the cenarion expedition walking stick. For pure passive speed, eko + sephuz is best. For proc-based speed sephuz + Sentinel + walking stick

4) Don't know, sorry. Should be easy to test though.

5) Again don't know - if they stack additively it won't matter. If they stack multiplicatively, then you should stack them. Test and find out!

6) Walking stick is a weapon version of the minor speed boots enchant (8%). That's all.

7) A non-feral druid with feral affinity has about 33% more energy regen than feral druids (but of course no OoC procs). Since you will probably want to keep stamp roar, then a guardian druid with feral affinity might be your best bet if you want to go that route.
[doublepost=1576255530,1576255130][/doublepost]I also checked your armory - while I can't see your 2nd ring (i assume it's sephuz), you are missing either one or both of the 5% and 3% speed gems - Straddling Viridium and Straddling Sage Agate.
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Hey , thanks for the reply . I've done some tests and Walking Stick only increases my base speed to 110 if I got no other buffs , but when I do it doesnt change anything .

Also my Crit is 34% , but when I take off any of my Longstider gear my movement speed decreases by 3.8 instead of 4 so Im kinda lost on that .

Also my rings are Sephuz + Legion Ring with Haste enchant , guess I'll need to change that . But I've been told movement speed gems dont work so I guess I have to test it out .
 
lebronze said:
Hey , thanks for the reply . I've done some tests and Walking Stick only increases my base speed to 110 if I got no other buffs , but when I do it doesnt change anything .
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That's weird, I tested it again and it doesn't seem to behave like when I tested it first. I must have not been paying attention and kept my minor speed boots on, most likely. Apologies.

Also my Crit is 34% , but when I take off any of my Longstider gear my movement speed decreases by 3.8 instead of 4 so Im kinda lost on that .
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Maybe the numbers are off for 110s, or some weird rounding is happening. In my speed set i have 34.5% crit, and my 300 ilvl longstrider gives 4%, and the 285 ilvl gives 3%. Not sure what to tell you here.

But I've been told movement speed gems dont work so I guess I have to test it out .
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That's wrong, the 2 gems do in fact stack with each-other and other runspeed effects.
 
villiansv said:
That's weird, I tested it again and it doesn't seem to behave like when I tested it first. I must have not been paying attention and kept my minor speed boots on, most likely. Apologies.



Maybe the numbers are off for 110s, or some weird rounding is happening. In my speed set i have 34.5% crit, and my 300 ilvl longstrider gives 4%, and the 285 ilvl gives 3%. Not sure what to tell you here.


That's wrong, the 2 gems do in fact stack with each-other and other runspeed effects.
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Hey , thanks for the tips . I just got 187% base movement speed without any buffs/skills on . Is it good ? What else can I get to increase it ?
 
If you're at 187% with sephuz + sentinel (no stacks) + 5% gem + 3% gem + 3x 300 ilvl longstrider, there's not much else you can do other than look for +speed off pieces.
 
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