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You let down everyone by trying to start f2p wargames

How? He made an effort to start wargames - Which he did...when he didnt have to. For you to be "let down" you'd have to have high expectations in the first place: And if you did, that's your fault. He doesn't need to hold everybody's hand. You all could have capitalized on his efforts and made wargames a more active thing.

Now you’re letting us down by being a hypocrite, honestly neon you’re what’s wrong with this site all talk no bark. Glad everyone’s realizing what type of person you are.

I personally can see where Neon is coming from with the original argument he made.

In this thread I made Light tries to justify both veterans and pure f2ps being termed as "f2ps".

I make a remark saying they aren't, it's pretty obvious they aren't real f2ps.

Whether you want to admit it or not, while veterans play the game for free, they aren't considered F2P users.
 
No there are pure linked and vets. [/doublepost]There is also an obvious standard that f2ps go by which is 100 professions and no enchants.
The 7 day bfa trial was enough to lvl my f2p professions to 300 and the sale from a pet was funding my enchants
Sure this is not what blizz have in mind for expierence the game as an trial
Gimme back the itemlvl bg's!,when there was not a notable difference between xp on xp off
 
I just like to think that pure F2P is just a 'more hardcore' vet. And that those who are out for a more complete twink-experience(Not JUST PvP, or whatever.) should definetly go pure F2P.
If you solely do PvP and care for nothing else, play vet. It's really that simple.

The only things that tend to annoy me about the whole 'PURE F2P > VETS' discussion, is when people make youtube-videos saying 'F2P <insert class> PvP' in the title, when anyone can clearly see that the satyr/ele force are firing wild all over the place.
Without any info on how you got those enchants, transmogs, mounts, etc... It just becomes misleading af. (and misleading/uninformed content is my main trigger.)

Some pure F2P PvP fanatics spend alot of time in BG chats and on Xpoff, trying to tell people about how paying for gametime is pay2win. They also tend to ask vets to not use gliders, take off their enchanted gear and stop using pots, when facing them in PvP.(wich is laughable.)
Remember when they'd ask 29s to not use all of their abilities, to make it a fair fight? xD

The vets didn't chose for you to play F2P... Asking them to play by your rules, is just silly...
And in such situations, I'd politely answer: "gitgud, son."

If you chose to play F2P, thats cool... Most the time, I find it admirable because of the amount of effort it requires in comparison to playing Vet.
But being angry about how people chose to spend 13Euro per month for the most BASIC purchase in World of Warcraft history, to get a smoother progress towards 'rocking in PvP' is something I'll never understand.
 
I feel bad if you couldn’t tell my comment wasn’t serious in that other thread

i'd recommend bh horde. everyone is pure f2p as far as im concerned. a very friendly warm non-toxic environment.
just walk outside of orgrimmar greet someone with the good ole' "greetings friend!"
feels just like cataclysm days <3

Your trolling
 
I STOP PAYING MY WOW SUBS WHEN 8.1 LUNCH AND REVERT BACK TO BEING STARTER ACCOUNT WITH FULL OF NECESSARY ITEM'S USABLE IN BATTLEGROUND BUT OCCASIONALLY ASK A GM TO GIVE ME A DAY OR TWO TO SORT THINGS OUT.
 
Wait people give a shit whether vets are f2p or not?? Why? Do we get something if vet are actually real f2p?
 
I am not a one dimensional person I am likely to adapt and change views over time.

If you really think I played a 29 fire mage to 2 shot f2ps you are sadly mistaken, I played it to not do 90 dps.
[doublepost=1560833099,1560832710][/doublepost]Also I literally exploited for a single day, that was it. It's not like I did it for weeks on end. Not like it matters at the time I thought exploiting was fine, until I saw a blue post addressing it.
Over time? In the span of 2 weeks you’ve changed your opinion on it.. not even a little bit but drastically. Your words were that anyone who utilized the exploit was scum of the earth, then you use it, and then in Dreams’ thread you’re defending it as though you never said that it was a scummy thing to do? And now all of a sudden it’s wrong to you only because the people who matter are aware of it? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously... I truly apologize if that comes off abrasive but shit man, that’s abysmal.

And you’re still missing the point I’m trying to lay out. You’re still seeking a higher power advantage, even if it’s not a high one to begin with, and that’s fine man.. but I’m just saying the reason why no one wants to take you seriously, which is quite obviously resulting in frustration on your end, is because you constantly contradict yourself. It’s perfectly fine to change opinions over time, but maybe you just shouldn’t be so extremist when it comes to your point of views until you try both sides of it, so you can properly formulate an opinion without being a constant oxymoron. (disclaimer: I am not calling you a moron)

Not being one dimensional has absolutely nothing to do with your ability to shift opinions so drastically and so quickly, but it has to do with you being able to test both sides of any argument, giving both a chance, and forming an opinion for yourself BEFORE shitting on one side or the other, which you have notoriously failed to do many times.
 
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Over time? In the span of 2 weeks you’ve changed your opinion on it.. not even a little bit but drastically. Your words were that anyone who utilized the exploit was scum of the earth, then you use it, and then in Dreams’ thread you’re defending it as though you never said that it was a scummy thing to do? And now all of a sudden it’s wrong to you only because the people who matter are aware of it? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously... I truly apologize if that comes off abrasive but shit man, that’s abysmal.

And you’re still missing the point I’m trying to lay out. You’re still seeking a higher power advantage, even if it’s not a high one to begin with, and that’s fine man.. but I’m just saying the reason why no one wants to take you seriously, which is quite obviously resulting in frustration on your end, is because you constantly contradict yourself. It’s perfectly fine to change opinions over time, but maybe you just shouldn’t be so extremist when it comes to your point of views until you try both sides of it, so you can properly formulate an opinion without being a constant oxymoron. (disclaimer: I am not calling you a moron)

Not being one dimensional has absolutely nothing to do with your ability to shift opinions so drastically and so quickly, but it has to do with you being able to test both sides of any argument, giving both a chance, and forming an opinion for yourself BEFORE shitting on one side or the other, which you have notoriously failed to do many times.

Yeah my opinion did change drastically I will not lie, and yeah maybe I am extreme with my viewpoints.

The reason I defended it in dream's thread was because I made a 49 twink and was exploiting on it, keep in mind this was before I saw a blizzard post saying it was an exploit.

All of a sudden it is wrong to exploit because blizzard said it was, if they didn't say the q bug was an exploit in a blue post I would still be all for it.

Why should anyone take me seriously? Idk tbh people can take me however they choose to their liking.

Contradict myself more like self evolution sure my viewpoints may seem extreme but I am constantly evolving.

I will state my opinion however I want no matter how extreme it may be freedom of speech is great you should try it.
 
f2ps / vets seem to be the SJWs of twinking, absolute pelicans
 
Over time? In the span of 2 weeks you’ve changed your opinion on it.. not even a little bit but drastically. Your words were that anyone who utilized the exploit was scum of the earth, then you use it, and then in Dreams’ thread you’re defending it as though you never said that it was a scummy thing to do? And now all of a sudden it’s wrong to you only because the people who matter are aware of it? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously... I truly apologize if that comes off abrasive but shit man, that’s abysmal.

And you’re still missing the point I’m trying to lay out. You’re still seeking a higher power advantage, even if it’s not a high one to begin with, and that’s fine man.. but I’m just saying the reason why no one wants to take you seriously, which is quite obviously resulting in frustration on your end, is because you constantly contradict yourself. It’s perfectly fine to change opinions over time, but maybe you just shouldn’t be so extremist when it comes to your point of views until you try both sides of it, so you can properly formulate an opinion without being a constant oxymoron. (disclaimer: I am not calling you a moron)

Not being one dimensional has absolutely nothing to do with your ability to shift opinions so drastically and so quickly, but it has to do with you being able to test both sides of any argument, giving both a chance, and forming an opinion for yourself BEFORE shitting on one side or the other, which you have notoriously failed to do many times.

He could also.. yknow.. not broadcast his every move/thought to tinkinfo. Dude needs a britta filter for his brain.
 
That’s not The Ironman Challenge my friend.
I listed the Ironman Challenge rules. Any deviation from it simply is not the Ironman Challenge.
The most important rule in Ironman...
You die, you start over.

/cheers
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Being self sufficient in WoW is not really a “challenge”. Now is it? At least not while leveling. Hell, WoW hasn’t been a challenge for a long long time. That’s partly why the Ironman was invented. Because WoW is so damn easy.

It does state ‘Ironman’ in the title after all.

/cheers

Kek...
People debating over video game definitions.

/cheers
 
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@Chops
No debate exists for that my friend. The rules are cut and dry. I even listed them. He just wanted make up own rules. He felt he could die and continue playing the same character. That just isn’t part of the Ironman Challenge.
The “official” Ironman rules page. They are very clear.
https://wowchallenges.com/index.php?Show=IronManRules

/cheers
 
Remember when people said using your p2p to boost your f2p made you unpure?

Oh yeah, I sure do!

To me the delineation between vet and f2p has been pretty clear just as between linked f2p and unlinked f2p... using the ‘pure’ term is where it gets murky and to be a bit of snobbery
 
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