Warmane 39s.

Quackbesteu

Veteran
These are my views and opinions and no one elses.

Everyone who knows me knows I hate playing private servers, usually because I don't trust the people running them as there was one server I was willing to dedicate to which was a Cataclysm 19s one and it collapsed horribly due to the GM having 0 idea how to be a GM.
Regardless my good friend Evan/Yowza/Flummoz, was playing on warmane 39s for quite a while and was consistently asking and begging for me to go try it. I was really against
A) Committing to a private server.
B) Having to download it because of my shit PC and Internet ( For the record it took over 5 hours to download Wrath and I personally haven't regretted it yet after two weeks ).
C) I really didn't want to level up in Wrath because you actually have to think about how many mobs you're pulling and quests and all that other stuff.

Some other players that I played with decided a few weeks ago they were going to play the server. They all leveled up to 39 super quick and were fully bis ( Minus AGM ) in less than 2 days including Uldaman runs for RNG on bracer, shoulders gloves etc.
After being so bored of BFA, not having access to Classic BETA and literally nothing else to do on my PC I said fk it and downloaded Wrath.

(The Icecrown server is 7 times exp I believe )

I personally always associated Wrath with super slow gameplay mainly because of how slow 19 twinks ( as I've always mained 19s since Late TBC / Early Wrath - BFA ) were on Wrath.
Regardless after waiting for 5 hours I was in, and began to level. It took me around 4 hours to hit level 39 and I was so surprised how well laid out this server was.
@Selaya who basically set it up on her own had set up :
Free Funding
Free Enchants
Free proffs boosting

Level 39 rental accounts so you can try out before u want to commit / what class u want to commit to.

Level 80 Characters on diff 'rental' accounts to help run yourself through quests and dungeons

Characters at diff Summoning Stones on other 'rental' accounts so you don't have to run there

A guild full of twinks actively with 6-20 members on daily on the Horde side and I think similar on the alliance also.

and much more I can't really remember off the top of my head but she has put A LOT of work into all of this.

I played a couple of games with friends and I was really liking the pace of Wrath 39s it kinda reminded me of Cata 19s with like a couple more buttons so you had some more outplay potential. The only problem was lack of quality players. As you can probably imagine on a private server that is very tightly knitted there was a lot of circle jerking at first etc but people managed to loosen up and be a little bit more inviting after seeing me and my friends online for multiple days and addressing some issues we had - when showing our concern.

Now as you can probably imagine the real reason I'm typing this all out is mainly because I would like a lot of you to try it. Though I have no doubt in my mind that not all of you will be good there, I am still very optimistic that a lot of you SHOULD be able to learn and will learn not to mention there will be a handful of you good at it if not better than me mechanically (as my mechanics are still not up to par imo). I think that it is a million times more fun than BFA and I know if they just had the number a lot more people would want to play it actively including myself.

I was hoping a lot of people that play different brackets such as 19s competitively and 70s etc Would like to go there and try it out, as I feel a lot of you would like the pace as it is much more enjoyable than BFA with more outplay potential. So yes if you'd like to join there is a thread already about this here with basically what I said minus my boring lore

https://xpoff.com/threads/wotlk-molten-39s.71289/#post-1068876

I just felt it was necessary to give my personal opinions on it because as stated a lot know I'm usually against private servers and also against slow pace gameplay ( which I thought wrath 39s was but it IS NOT ).
I might edit this thread with stuff I forgot to include.
 
Wrath 39s is, as far as I'm concerned, the best twinking ever had to offer. I'm glad you enjoy it.

I'm personally against private servers but I know alot of the old 39s are there and anyone interested in experiencing that era of play would do well to try it out.
 
I feel conflicted. Private versus official. The arguments for and against both are lengthy, and not something I will really try cover in this post. Instead, I will make an appeal for the community to migrate to Classic.

TLDR: Play Classic if you miss the community aspect of both WoW and twinking, and don't wish to wade into the myriad issues with private servers.

For those who know me, from the end of WoD until the recent patch, I have been the one of the BIGGEST advocates for the 39 bracket. I've played 39s since I accidentally leveled my Hunter from 19 back when they first introduced XP in BGs in WotLK and have never looked back. And I would love to see the 39 community come back.

Right before the patch hit, the 39 community was experiencing unprecedented growth, in large part thanks to Asmongold coming to the bracket (whether you like him or not is irrelevant to the explosion of growth he instigated). In fact, we were even pulling die hard 19s into 39s, because our scene had competition that had been lacking in 19s for some time. It was incredibly fun the games we had together, and although wargames hadn't quite shaped up to having two equally skilled teams yet, we the community (shoutout to @Livingforce @Happypanda @Sun @Unstablle ) were close to developing a scene where highly competitive players and teams were on nightly.

Now obviously that has all since past, not just for our bracket, but everyone else's as well. And herein lies the crux of the issue:

I plan on making my way to Classic, because I feel that the older versions of WoW, up to WotLK in particular, really promoted community as an integral part of playing the game. I daresay that is why this community exists in the first place. As WoW progressed through the years with it's quality of life changes, it slowly (and likely unintentionally) began to destroy the foundations of many of WoW's communities. There is a real rift in terms of culture and sentiments between players who played WoW from Vanilla-WotLK, and those who started post Cataclysm.

It's hard to convince players who are used to logging on a few hours a night and head straight for random BG queues why wargames matter. It's hard to convince players who are used to heading straight to LFR for their weekly raid reset why guilds matter. It's hard to convince players who are used to running up to multiple mobs in a dungeon and soloing all of them why COMMUNITY MATTERS.

Now with all that out of the way, I have to ask what will come of the community if people like myself head over to the Warmane server? Why not promote moving the community to Classic, where it has many of the elements of why WoW became great, the "it" factor if you will? Although I love the idea of playing with everyone again on my 39, and getting that itch scratched, I and many other players don't feel comfortable with playing on a private server due to the myriad issues they tend to have (P2W Admins, constant threat of being shut down, legal grey area, potential for hacks, etc), and instead will be starting a guild and community over on a Classic server near you!
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Sun
I downloaded the client and stopped when I realized you had to level w blizzlike xp rates. Worth it to keep going @Quackbesteu ?

Also @Selaya sell me one of those rental tinks so I dont have to level
 
Now with all that out of the way, I have to ask what will come of the community if people like myself head over to the Warmane server? Why not promote moving the community to Classic, where it has all the elements of why WoW became great, the "it" factor if you will? Although I love the idea of playing with everyone again on my 39, and getting that itch scratched, I and many other players don't feel comfortable with playing on a private server due to the myriad issues they tend to have (P2W Admins, constant threat of being shut down, legal grey area, potential for hacks, etc), and instead will be starting a guild and community over on a Classic server near you!

Only going to respond to this bit because the rest was a lot of 'waffle'.

I think we can both agree that both 39s and twinking overall in vanilla is different to WotLK.

"It has all the elements of why WoW became great".
i disagree, and a lot would also disagree.
If you were saying this about TBC WoTLK or Cata up until LFR was introduced I'd be more inclined to agree with you. Vanilla despite being fun is not necessarily what I am looking for personally in a game. Having said that I will still attempt to play endgame on there because I pray there will be competitive games on there.
P2W isn't rly that huge at 39, you can donate for looms or farm them at 80.
You can buy gold to buy elixirs at 39 or you can just farm them.
The 'p2w' issue isn't really a thing at 39, but I can see why that would be an argument for endgame. I for one dislike P2W.
Constant thread of being shut down : It's like 5+ Years old, that doesn't really concern me and if it does I wouldn't really be that bothered as I haven't invested anything super huge into this server. I don't get attached with characters that aren't retail.
The hack system is clean and I haven't seen a single hacker asides 1 leveler in STV who flew.

I don't really like this whole " We're all in this together positive vibes community " stuff. I rather just play with a couple of friends though I will have to play with people in classic and I hope to make good friends there too I really am not bothered about it and don't see it as a valid reason to dismiss wotlk.
[doublepost=1560014353,1560014318][/doublepost]
I downloaded the client and stopped when I realized you had to level w blizzlike xp rates. Worth it to keep going @Quackbesteu ?

Also @Selaya sell me one of those rental tinks so I dont have to level
It's 7 times exp rate on Icecrown.
 
I think we can both agree that both 39s and twinking overall in vanilla is different to WotLK.
Yes, absolutely! Every expansion, and even patches within an expansion changes the nature of twinking. So we adapt and overcome, or move on.
"It has all the elements of why WoW became great".
i disagree, and a lot would also disagree.
Yes, I should have been more specific. It has many elements, but not all. TBC and WotLK both contributed elements to the game that absolutely made WoW great. Vanilla/Classic certainly is NOT a perfect game.
I don't really like this whole " We're all in this together positive vibes community " stuff.
Fair enough. I personally don't think that line of thinking helps grow the twink community, but you are free to play as you like. Unless Blizzard disagrees.
don't see it as a valid reason to dismiss wotlk.
To clarify, are speaking of the expansion as a whole, or the private server? Because I'd agree with you if you meant the Xpac.
 
To clarify, are speaking of the expansion as a whole, or the private server? Because I'd agree with you if you meant the Xpac.
I personally will be tryharding 60 for a bit. Say I get bored, I can just hop on 39s queue some bgs when I'm fried. Twinking on Vanilla is very very very boring. But I mean you can do what you want ofc. Just my opinion. I was talking about the pserver.
 
If quack vouches for it you know its a big deal

+1 respect from Canada
I likely don't know him, and he likely doesn't know me, so that doesn't particularly mean much unless you know the person.

Regardless, what I can see based on how he described his experience given his prior misgivings, is that it was a wholly positive experience.
 
7x xp sounds nice, but where is the free funding available? Or is that spread across the servers
 
7x xp sounds nice, but where is the free funding available? Or is that spread across the servers
Theres free funding on the 7 times rate server for both horde and alliance.
However for super rare items such as PoD you have to go to Loredaron or however its spelled because they don't have them on the 7 times rate server.
 
Theres free funding on the 7 times rate server for both horde and alliance.
However for super rare items such as PoD you have to go to Loredaron or however its spelled because they don't have them on the 7 times rate server.

Interesting. Thx for the info, might check it out again tmrw if I have time
 
We have full free funding on both servers, the only real difference is that Lordaeron is x1 experience rates.
(More info to follow soon, when I've finished setting up my new server ...)
 
Do people play 29s on that server?
 
We have full free funding on both servers, the only real difference is that Lordaeron is x1 experience rates.
(More info to follow soon, when I've finished setting up my new server ...)

Good to know. I'll try joining that discord tmrw, would be nice to see some of the old folks.

I asked about it and no1 seemed keen. I'd personally like to try it. I haven't seen many 29s, but a lot of french 19s.

Off topic but what happened to your other tinkinfo acct?
 
[ ... ]

Off topic but what happened to your other tinkinfo acct?
Never got 'restored' so I just made a new one. Not really bothered in all honesty
Offer's still standing. If you care enough, I shall look into everything and backdate it as much as possible.

As for the pserver issue; there's a reason we've chosen to build up a twinking community on a, well ordinary server vs just making our own, this is because Molten (Warmane) is a server that has proven to be stable for a long time. If you choose to invest any time at all, it will very likely be time well spent and your characters should stick around for a good long while. (It's still very easy to make a twink, which is the point of all the funding we're doing, in any case.)

As for the Vanilla vs WotLK point, I think quack covered it all very nicely already.
Let me just remind you that Vanilla Classic release is still a quarter of a year away, and even then there likely won't be any real 39s action until phase 3 (battlegrounds).
Whatever will happen in the medium to far future will happen; but if you're down to 39s right now, this is the place to be!
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top