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"intially there was ONLY Darkxd from LSN who **OBJECTED** against allied races being **ALLOWED**."

4 Teams, Yet LSN complains first...Def have nothing to do with them losing to it in scrims...I wonder why other teams didn't cry first...HmmThinkingFace
 
Kul'tiran should be banned, because it is not meant to be a thing at 19s (they start at lvl 20)
7 stam to gloves was not intended for 19s, leg enchants was not intended for 19s, bugged enchants that require a higher lvl toon to apply them on your 19 was not intended for 19s. If this argument is made we might as well have a full legit f2p tourney with only enchants and gearing within the limits of what is farmable only on a lvl 20.

If kul'tiran wasn't meant to be at 19s blizzard would have already fixed it. Just like the way they fix the 180ilvl ring for example, they removed it from players that were known to have it and even banned some who abused it too often. Another other argument outside that LSN is getting demolished by plebmades is just them lying to themselves.

2ndly, about the date changes of the twink cup, the moment the offical date was released I promise you that GSC RI and SPIT all factored this date in and built their team and recruitment around this date. I know for a fact RI benched their GM wendy because he was unable to attend the 29th of june twink cup date.

Now that the date has changed they have already filled wendys spot, are they going to just straight up lob the other guy who put work into making sure he can attend the original date for someone who has no practice? ofc not they stick with their more synergy player which I believe right now is Xooch.

So, does that mean we should be changing the twink cup date because one team REALLY wants 1 person to attend, or do they do what ever other team does and finds another player for the role to practice with and actually use in the twink cup.

I personally cannot attend the far later date 10 of august, and I know for a fact many others cannot aswell from many other teams as they have already factored in the TC date to be the 29th of June, do these people really have to be swapped out of these teams who they have been practicing with because one team doesn't want to do what EVERY team has been doing since the day of the TC date announcement?

You decide.
 
RI had multiple that couldn't attend June and multiple that couldn't attend July, myself included in the June date. When casting my votes, I looked to prioritize main roster spots over bench, as I know choosing dates 13 people can all attend can be difficult. RI has never wanted the June date because it doesn't work for us, which is why we had voted against it from the very first poll. The poll the June date didn't even win btw.
 
Have you clowns ever played arena or RBGs? I thought you were world champs. Grips, knocks and stuns are part of EVERY bracket except 19s. Why are you trying to dumb it down?

This has nothing to do with strategy and you're making it hilariously obvious. You all spent money on race changes, BWBs and xfers last year for the TC for small advantages. This isn't different, lmao.

It's obvious you're looking to create the exact same stale ass meta as last year. Sure are putting a lot of effort into swaying the meta in a tournament you're essentially paying to play in anyway. Let's just have fun and play twinks. You legion cats are invited.

Dumbing down is how WoW works now.

/cheers
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so much hassle for a scripted tourney every1 already knows the outcome
unlucky

Not everyone realizes it’s scripted though.
Sometimes I think even the winners actually think they are really **special** because they beat 25-30(out of how many?) other level 19’s in a few games with a set of very very restricted rules and they were the lucky ones to not get DDoSed.

/cheers
 
And to add, @Blackout do your thing. When it comes to dates, any real tournament is set for a date regardless if it works for a team or not. Its about making the game and playing in it and people will and can figure out a way.

When tournaments arise, everyone makes adjustments. If you cant attend well that just plain sucks. Every date for every wargame, and these tournys dont really work for me because ive been so busy irl. But i still will find ways to make it to play on those dates, Because i want to be there.

Tldr people who wanna make the tourny, will. Regardless of date.
 
Banning allied races can effectively ban a player indirectly. Anyone who race changed their twink, BEFORE RULES WERE STARED (long before), had done so because it was allowed. By banning this later on, that player's character is now unable to participate in the TC. So, they now have to spend more money just to participate in TC or make a new character. That is assuming they didn't reroll over 90 characters, and refuse to reroll another batch of 90 over a twink tournament with a prize pool of $10.

Overall, banning allied races does not help the economic decision making.
Banning allied races also indirectly bans a character.
The fact the tournament 'supervisors(?)' decided to go by a 'MAJORITY VOTE' between all four teams (even managing to misspell one?) and overlooked this is pathetic. Fact is, allied races are in the game and are not a piece of gear. Banning them is simply unfair, and at most a cap should be put onto the amount allowed on a team. This does not fix the issue at hand, however, I do not believe any team has more than two currently. Temporary fix, should just allow them entirely.

As far as race changing through gold, from KT to a different race, this can be said for both sides. In addition, it also proves how players who have the gold available to them MOST LIKELY have a max level character to have said gold and thus have put in an amount of effort equal or greater than unlocking an allied race. Factioning characters works the same way.

Easiest fix is to have EVERYONE play the exact same team makeup with the exact same gear and the exact same gear.
To hell with restrictions.
Just provide a list of what MUST be used. This makes sure everyone is exactly the same. This would ensure the team that is the best wins.

We did it years ago in Cata for Trials several times. Then again, Trials are a hell of a lot more organized.

/cheers
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No differences here we r just a bunch of mongs playing internet orcs it's all love brother

In fact I was already looking at baby names

What do u guys think of Trlild

That’s probably the most difficult part of playing a lowbie to be honest. Coming up with a name. The rest is a cakewalk.

/cheers
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And to add, @Blackout do your thing. When it comes to dates, any real tournament is set for a date regardless if it works for a team or not. Its about making the game and playing in it and people will and can figure out a way.

When tournaments arise, everyone makes adjustments. If you cant attend well that just plain sucks. Every date for every wargame, and these tournys dont really work for me because ive been so busy irl. But i still will find ways to make it to play on those dates, Because i want to be there.

Tldr people who wanna make the tourny, will. Regardless of date.

That’s correct!
Set the date and stick to it. People may have rearranged their schedule for the first date. And now their f*cked.
Each year the TC date is scheduled around a few people. Set that date and let them schedule around it. They will if it if truly important to them.

/cheers
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7 stam to gloves was not intended for 19s, leg enchants was not intended for 19s, bugged enchants that require a higher lvl toon to apply them on your 19 was not intended for 19s. If this argument is made we might as well have a full legit f2p tourney with only enchants and gearing within the limits of what is farmable only on a lvl 20.

If kul'tiran wasn't meant to be at 19s blizzard would have already fixed it. Just like the way they fix the 180ilvl ring for example, they removed it from players that were known to have it and even banned some who abused it too often. Another other argument outside that LSN is getting demolished by plebmades is just them lying to themselves.

2ndly, about the date changes of the twink cup, the moment the offical date was released I promise you that GSC RI and SPIT all factored this date in and built their team and recruitment around this date. I know for a fact RI benched their GM wendy because he was unable to attend the 29th of june twink cup date.

Now that the date has changed they have already filled wendys spot, are they going to just straight up lob the other guy who put work into making sure he can attend the original date for someone who has no practice? ofc not they stick with their more synergy player which I believe right now is Xooch.

So, does that mean we should be changing the twink cup date because one team REALLY wants 1 person to attend, or do they do what ever other team does and finds another player for the role to practice with and actually use in the twink cup.

I personally cannot attend the far later date 10 of august, and I know for a fact many others cannot aswell from many other teams as they have already factored in the TC date to be the 29th of June, do these people really have to be swapped out of these teams who they have been practicing with because one team doesn't want to do what EVERY team has been doing since the day of the TC date announcement?

You decide.

That’s what happens when needs of the few take precedence over the many.

/cheers
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Both versions of WoW are going to be terrible. Classic is being so overhyped is going to kill itself.

But if we want to talk about good MMOs nowadays, ESO and FFXIV are fun asf. :D


Two things that will “kill” it for some(not all) people on this site.
BG’s won’t happen right away. BG for lowbies in Phase 3.
The grind is long. Lots and lots planning to create a Twink. I mean LOTS.

/cheers
 
7 stam to gloves was not intended for 19s, leg enchants was not intended for 19s, bugged enchants that require a higher lvl toon to apply them on your 19 was not intended for 19s. If this argument is made we might as well have a full legit f2p tourney with only enchants and gearing within the limits of what is farmable only on a lvl 20.

If kul'tiran wasn't meant to be at 19s blizzard would have already fixed it.

How is this even an argument? "If kul'tiran wasn't meant to be at 19s blizzard would have already fixed it"... "If 7 stam to gloves was not intended for 19s, leg enchants was not intended for 19s" blizzard would have already fixed the trade bug. The Kul'Tiran debate is an endless cycle and people are going to disagree.

2ndly, about the date changes of the twink cup, the moment the offical date was released I promise you that GSC RI and SPIT all factored this date in and built their team and recruitment around this date. I know for a fact RI benched their GM wendy because he was unable to attend the 29th of june twink cup date.

How can you promise or grantee anything from RI point of view? The original poll didnt award the correct date to begin with. Many people couldnt make the June date for RI, not because Wendy couldn't make it. Was it unfortunate Wendy couldnt make the date, yes. Before TC 2019 was announced, Wendy didnt know if he wanted to lead RI or not. Therefore, I took control over RI, HairyTreeMan took control of developing the TC team for RI. Im glad Blackout is finally putting his foot down to stop the bickering. Stop spreading false information to make the TC more scuffed than it already is.

What else is there to say other than go back to horde you scum.
 
7 stam to gloves was not intended for 19s, leg enchants was not intended for 19s, bugged enchants that require a higher lvl toon to apply them on your 19 was not intended for 19s. If this argument is made we might as well have a full legit f2p tourney with only enchants and gearing within the limits of what is farmable only on a lvl 20.

If kul'tiran wasn't meant to be at 19s blizzard would have already fixed it. Just like the way they fix the 180ilvl ring for example, they removed it from players that were known to have it and even banned some who abused it too often. Another other argument outside that LSN is getting demolished by plebmades is just them lying to themselves.

stop being retarded now fancy, theres a big difference between those enchants and a game changing racial.
i know gsc is very :angry: about losing last year, but get over it, shit happens, you were just the worse players. its incredibly easy to play around kul'tiran, but the fact that pretty much your whole team has gone kul'tiran goes to show how broken the racial is.
 
stop being retarded now fancy, theres a big difference between those enchants and a game changing racial.
i know gsc is very :angry: about losing last year, but get over it, shit happens, you were just the worse players. its incredibly easy to play around kul'tiran, but the fact that pretty much your whole team has gone kul'tiran goes to show how broken the racial is.

imagine fancy comparing a broken game changing racial to 70 health on ur gloves lmao. wowow i thought i was fried.
 
game changing racial
incredibly easy to play around kul'tiran
but the fact that pretty much your whole team has gone kul'tiran goes to show how broken the racial is
If it was incredibly broken but easy to play around but still game changing and somehow our entire team has gone kultiran, how about you prove us wrong and go it?

Only people on my team that has kultiran unlocked is a shaman, myself, and fuker dan which i swear to god if he doesn't go worgen ill lose my shit. So please stop being lazy.

Oh thats right you don't actually want to put your time into it. Unfortunate you can't invest an hour a day for 2 weeks.
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How can you promise or grantee anything from RI point of view? The original poll didnt award the correct date to begin with.
This is just an example of how teams can simply attempt to still be able to show for gameday, you picked up players who can actually show and left the ones who couldn't behind.
 
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I honestly didn't think such high skilled pvpers would be so against a counter able knockback.
Itd be cool to be able see some slick plays being made with it but if it ends up remaining banned that's also completely understandable.
 
And to add, @Blackout do your thing. When it comes to dates, any real tournament is set for a date regardless if it works for a team or not. Its about making the game and playing in it and people will and can figure out a way.

When tournaments arise, everyone makes adjustments. If you cant attend well that just plain sucks. Every date for every wargame, and these tournys dont really work for me because ive been so busy irl. But i still will find ways to make it to play on those dates, Because i want to be there.

Tldr people who wanna make the tourny, will. Regardless of date.
do u want me to tell my raiding guild i cant show up for progress cos a 19 tournaments date got changed or what
 
do u want me to tell my raiding guild i cant show up for progress cos a 19 tournaments date got changed or what

Grandma on fire was always my go-to for bailing on progression
 
do u want me to tell my raiding guild i cant show up for progress cos a 19 tournaments date got changed or what

Grandma on fire was always my go-to for bailing on progression
 
do u want me to tell my raiding guild i cant show up for progress cos a 19 tournaments date got changed or what

Do you want to play in it?
or would you rather show up for the first week of something you'll be doing for the next 17 weeks?
 

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