single drop source boes

How is https://www.wowhead.com/item=17922/lionfur-armor&bonus=3669 & https://www.wowhead.com/item=4861/sleek-feathered-tunic&bonus=3669 considered GF'd? WoWhead says they both drop from rares, do they just not drop, or scale or what?

They dropped from rares, but many lowbie rares had their loot tables wrecked in cata. For a while the items could often be found in salvage crates, but that was only in WoD. With 8.0, several got their special loot back, but not all. I believe for those 2, no one has reported them dropping again. My guess is that a piece or two would shop on the AH by now from random levelers killing them...but mulgore isnt a hotspot of activity.
 

because IQ>80 subhumans believe it still drops and keep downvoting and flagging posts that confirm that those items do not drop.

Since wow is full of those people one can easily get confused with all the misinformation

here's the easiest way to find out if the item drops or not

If the item is worth like 600k on undermine/wowauction then most likely it DOESNT drop anymore (there are exceptions ofc like chromatic sword)
 
You can easily check if they're obtainable by going to TUJ, checking how often the item is posted, checking the price, and checking the item lvl to see if it is original ilvl or scaled, if u only see original ilvl and high prices chances are its GFed
So ur wrog about Foreman's and who knows what else u wont know unless it's exhaustively farmed cause things that were grandfathered have started dropping again 8.0
 
Ogremind ring

doesnt and will not scale...to 20. Stayed ilvl 36 and lvl 31.

Which is retarded considering all the other items that drop from their own mobs DO scale down to your level. all the other random greens scale to your level 20/random level 16/18 whatever in arathi.

Typical mongoloid game

Because Arathi has a zone lvl floor >20 same reason you cant get chromo on 20. Only a zone where the lvl floor is 10 like westfall, 15 like hillsbrad or 20 like stonetalon will scale.
 
Because Arathi has a zone lvl floor >20 same reason you cant get chromo on 20. Only a zone where the lvl floor is 10 like westfall, 15 like hillsbrad or 20 like stonetalon will scale.
..............For now!
 
More like boss drops.

The fact that this already existed in WoD and was removed for legion makes me doubt it will ever happen, tho.

edit- or.... exists? WoD dungeons could proc epic+ loot before this patch. Legion dungeons did not.
 
The fact that this already existed in WoD and was removed for legion makes me doubt it will ever happen, tho.

edit- or.... exists? WoD dungeons could proc epic+ loot before this patch. Legion dungeons did not.
It is basically called warforging and titanforging.
Maybe bar the color but at that level everything is purple anyway.
Wod and legion dungeon gear have it. And not only dungeons.

Like there is entire book i could write on how i would imagine future of loot but tbh it would make sense for them to bring this system to low level dungeons. Especially now when vanilla content must be brought in line with the rest of game + future level squish & leveling improvements they been on and on about lately.
 
It is basically called warforging and titanforging.
Maybe bar the color but at that level everything is purple anyway.
Wod and legion dungeon gear have it. And not only dungeons.

No, legion quests can go epic but dungeon drops cannot. I had a dozen or two 99's trust me... It's not the same.

Legion was just like now. Quests and world drops could go epic, I believe, but never dungeon loot. Yet in WoD it all can.

it would make sense for them to bring this system to low level dungeons.

When has that ever mattered? One more time for you - they HAD it once -----> they REMOVED it for the next xpac.

Last xpac… Then they UPDATED everything below WoD to legion's model this patch. Not WoD's model. Legion's model.
[doublepost=1553819201,1553819019][/doublepost]All the ilvl bumps for rare and epic items this patch STOPPED at legion. Nothing changed there. It's all now that model.

In Blizzard logic, it "makes sense" to revert WoD dungeon rules before altering everything else. If they already didn't... Have you gotten any epic drops from WoD bosses since the patch? Do you think they'd bother telling anyone?
 
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No, legion quests can go epic but dungeon drops cannot. I had a dozen or two 99's trust me... It's not the same.

Legion was just like now. Quests and world drops could go epic, I believe, but never dungeon loot. Yet in WoD it all can.



When has that ever mattered? One more time for you - they HAD it once -----> they REMOVED it for the next xpac.

Last xpac… Then they UPDATED everything below WoD to legion's model this patch. Not WoD's model. Legion's model.
[doublepost=1553819201,1553819019][/doublepost]All the ilvl bumps for rare and epic items this patch STOPPED at legion. Nothing changed there. It's all now that model.

In Blizzard logic, it "makes sense" to revert WoD dungeon rules before altering everything else. If they already didn't... Have you gotten any epic drops from WoD bosses since the patch? Do you think they'd bother telling anyone?

think he meant that legion dungeons had warforging and titanforging, which is true. But ye they could not go from blue to epic even if they outlvled epics.
 
And now WoD level 99 dungeon blues are higher ilevel than legion dungeon blues.

I'm not going to say you're wrong about warforge/titanforge, but I never got a single dungeon drop higher than blue level. Can you show me one? I don't have many 99 left that are legion geared, but there was never a dungeon drop higher ilvl than an epic quest reward. Dungeon drops were always the same, i'm not even sure if they procced tertiary or else they'd be farmed for upgraded gear not just AP. I'm pretty sure they didn't change at all no matter how many times you ran.

Until you got to level 110. Then they could upgrade… maybe he's confused.

Legion BoE epics were the highest ilvl available, not saying the 101 epics that were 840 or whatever - I mean the level 99 epics that scaled for 99. They're ilvl 151 now, still better than WoD epics at that level after the bump this patch.

I know for a fact that the relics dropped from dungeon bosses DID NOT upgrade. The best relics available at 99 were quests that procced epic, usually the last of the zone and not always even that. Dungeon relics were a static level.

"Makes sense" the rest of the dungeon loot followed suit. I think your facts are fuddled.
[doublepost=1553823773,1553822831][/doublepost]Here's the first one I found to illustrate what i'm saying: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/kelthuzad/sceery

The epic BoE are the highest ilvl, then the bracers which were a quest reward, then crafted, then the dungeon trinket. The second ring is a lower ilvl quest reward because that's how it went, ilvl increased as you progressed through the zone.


That dungeon trinket is the same as the one in your dungeon journal. There's no other version. No warforge, no titanforge.
 
No, legion quests can go epic but dungeon drops cannot.
I was thinking of heroics + overall design philosophy of the gearing curve blizzard presents as current gearing progression and how it will effect future.

By the looks of how this was implemented just few days before patch release i get the feelings this is actually a response to shut up all the people mooching scaling purples from gms. Not to mention how they suddenly recalled xpoff not being separated.

Not to go in to much discussion about this but as some person on reddit rightfully put it:
Blizzard crafted a huge world, it just also happens to be an abandoned one. WoW is a themepark, not a living world.
You are discussing an old ride that WILL NOT see updates unless it suits the needs of a new ride.

In Blizzard logic
There is no logic bro. in one patch they normalize on use/proc effect numbers on items across the board to represent current state of the game and right after in next patch they squish and scale everything thus undoing every bit of normalization they have achieved.
 
wanted to get a list together of all the single source boes
i only know of what is accessible to 20s

fishing
the 1 ring does not scale
stendels wedding band does not scale


bloodmyst isle
https://www.wowhead.com/item=31256/silvermoon-armor&bonus=3635 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=31263/silvermoon-tunic&bonus=3635 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=31264/silvermoon-robes&bonus=3635 - confirmed

northern barrrens
https://www.wowhead.com/item=5423/boahns-fang&bonus=4068 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=5426/serpents-kiss&bonus=4068 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=5425/runechain-girdle&bonus=4068 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=5422/brambleweed-leggings&bonus=4069 - confirmed

wailing caverns
https://www.wowhead.com/item=10413/gloves-of-the-fang&bonus=4068 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=132743/slither-scale-gauntlets&bonus=4068 - confirmed

stonetalon mountains
https://www.wowhead.com/item=5751/webwing-cloak&bonus=3645 - confirmed

hillsbrad
the pacifier - confirmed
boulder pads - confirmed
black ogre gickers - confirmed
howling blade - confirmed
feathered headdress - confirmed

elwynn forest
https://www.wowhead.com/item=5744/pale-skinner&bonus=3671 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1917/jeweled-dagger&bonus=3671 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=38513/boarhide-leggings&bonus=3671 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=3000/brood-mother-carapace?bonus=3671 - ?

westfall
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1927/deadmines-cleaver&bonus=4005 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=115349/talon-of-vultros&bonus=3716 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1391/riverpaw-mystic-staff&bonus=3637 - ?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=820/slicer-blade&bonus=3637 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=827/wicked-blackjack&bonus=3637 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1405/foamspittle-staff&bonus=3637 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1394/driftwood-club&bonus=3637 - ?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2088/long-crawler-limb&bonus=3637 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2166/foremans-leggings&bonus=3716 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2167/foremans-gloves&bonus=3716 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=821/riverpaw-leather-vest&bonus=3637 - ?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2087/hard-crawler-carapace&bonus=3637 - confirmed
https://www.wowhead.com/item=115348/feathered-cape&bonus=3637 - confirmed

deadmines
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1930/stonemason-cloak&bonus=4005 - confirmed
blackened defias gloves - confirmed
blackened defias leggings - confirmed

stranglethorn vale
lord sakrasis scepter - ?
iridescent scale leggings - ?


darkshore
https://www.wowhead.com/item=6333/spikelash-dagger&bonus=3636 - GFd

northern barrrens
https://www.wowhead.com/item=5182/shiver-blade&bonus=3634 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=5112/ritual-blade&bonus=3634 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=5183/pulsating-hydra-heart&bonus=3713 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=4771/harvest-cloak&bonus=3634 - GFd

southern barrens
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1539/gnarled-hermits-staff&bonus=3634 - GFd

tirisfal glades
https://www.wowhead.com/item=3330/dargols-hauberk&bonus=3673 - GFd

shadowfang keep
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2205/duskbringer&bonus=4049 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1489/gloomshroud-armor&bonus=4049 - GFd

loch modan
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2267/stonesplinter-mace&bonus=3640 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2281/rodentia-flint-axe&bonus=3640 - GFd

wetlands
https://www.wowhead.com/item=5749/scythe-axe&bonus=3646 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=5750/warchiefs-girdle&bonus=3646 - GFd

redridge mountains - all GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1461/slayers-battle-axe&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1455/blackrock-champions-axe&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2175/shadowhide-battle-axe&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1457/shadowhide-mace&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1296/blackrock-mace&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1220/lupine-axe&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1440/gnoll-skull-basher&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1214/gnoll-punisher&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1219/redridge-machete&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1287/giant-tarantula-fang&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1462/ring-of-the-shadow&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=3231/cutthroat-pauldrons&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1299/lesser-belt-of-the-spire&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1211/gnoll-war-harness&bonus=3641 - GFd

duskwood - all GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=899/venom-web-fang&bonus=3644 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=885/black-metal-axe&bonus=3644 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=880/staff-of-horrors&bonus=3644 - GFd

westfall
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2204/brashclaws-skewer&bonus=3637 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=826/brutish-riverpaw-axe&bonus=3637 - GFd

unknown - all GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=4949/orcish-cleaver&bonus=3640 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=899/venom-web-fang&bonus=3644 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2823/mogrosh-can-opener&bonus=3640 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2821/mogrosh-masher&bonus=3640 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2822/mogrosh-toothpick&bonus=3640 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2265/stonesplinter-axe&bonus=3640 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=2266/stonesplinter-dagger&bonus=3640 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=816/small-hand-blade&bonus=3637 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1560/bluegill-sandals&bonus=3646 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1448/blackrock-gauntlets&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1446/blackrock-boots&bonus=3641 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=832/silver-defias-belt&bonus=3637 - GFd
https://www.wowhead.com/item=1355/buckskin-cape&bonus=3634 - GFd


let me know of any more
i can add to the list

here is old post

bump
bored @ work
decided to finish
fixin this thread
happy farming
 
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