EU+US Frost-laced ammunition

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To preface this discussion, this was something that was brought up on Somfas' stream regarding an enchant called https://www.wowhead.com/item=158377/frost-laced-ammunition. What this enchant does is that it sometimes deals a small amount of damage and slows the target by 20%, at max level. The interesting thing is that if you test it on lower levels it seems that the damage hasn't scaled down, so it deals a flat amount of damage regardless of level (good job blissart).

I did some testing on a training dummy, comparing Incendiary Ammunition and Frost-laced Ammunition.

3 minute testing as a 29 MM hunter. I did 3 tests for both enchants.

Incendiary Ammunition:

Test 1: 2.7k damage, 3 normal hits (549 damage), 1 critical hit (1,098)
https://i.imgur.com/LHJiEHj.jpg

Test 2: 1.1k damage, 2 normal hits (549 damage)
https://i.imgur.com/DPD3Cwm.jpg

Test 3: 3.3k damage, 6 normal hits (549 damage)
https://i.imgur.com/ngnFIwX.jpg



Frost-laced Ammunition:

Test 1: 1.9k damage, 4 normal hits (487 damage)
https://i.imgur.com/woE4KLA.jpg

Test 2: 1.9k damage, 4 normal hits (487 damage)
https://i.imgur.com/GYo5euZ.jpg

Test 3: 2.9k damage, 4 normal hits (487 damage), 1 critical hit (974 damage)
https://i.imgur.com/kJ2WmMu.jpg


I previously mentioned that this damage is flat and I think it functions similarly to Incendiary in the sense of stuff like versatility, bestial wrath, and saltwater potion affecting its damage.

I need to do more tests but it seems like frost laced procs more but deals a bit less damage, I need to also test in BG's to see how practical it is in pvp or if it has a different proc.

What do you guys think? Seeing as to how Incendiary is apparently going to get nerfed next patch I think frost-lance might be BiS, or it may already be BiS if you consider the fact that it has a slow.
 
They both getting nerfed. everything is getting nerfed.
 
SPQR said:
They both getting nerfed. everything is getting nerfed.
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Thy might be getting nerfed but as far as this ammo, the slow shouldn’t be.

In which case, when the Incediary becomes junk, the slow from frost-laced will become best because you sometimes won’t have to concussive shot because of the proc, saving your from 1 global CD.
 
Veechard said:
Thy might be getting nerfed but as far as this ammo, the slow shouldn’t be.

In which case, when the Incediary becomes junk, the slow from frost-laced will become best because you sometimes won’t have to concussive shot because of the proc, saving your from 1 global CD.
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BM

crow s nest scope - 6% crit
deadly navigation - 6% crit (Longer overall buff uptime)

frost ammon - 221normal 442 crit
incendiary - 249normal 498 crit

Flint - 51 dmg on proc and 30 agility ( 8 ish dmg exta on cobra, 26 ish dmg exta on Kill command
xray - 11 extra dmg on cobra shot, 18 extra dmg on kill comand
Lord blastingtons scope - 17 agility (5 ish dmg exta on arcane shot , 20 ish dmg exta on Kill command )

MM

crow s nest scope - 6% crit
deadly navigation - 6% crit (Longer overall buff uptime)

frost ammon - 221normal, 442 crit
incendiary - 249normal, 498 crit

Flint - 51 dmg on proc and 30 agility (17 ish dmg exta on arcane shot , 70 ish dmg exta on aim shot)
xray - 13 extra on arcane shot, 93 eaxta on aim shot
Lord blastingtons scope - 17 agility (10 ish dmg exta on arcane shot , 40 ish dmg exta on aim shot)

Only notable change is that kill command equation no longer favors attack power
thus Flint is better than xray for bm now.

If you favor constancy over rng then Lord blastingtons scope is what you should use over incendiary.
20% is not going to change anything and hardly noticeable.
All comes down to opinions i guess.
 
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Ado said:
if you test it on lower levels it seems that the damage hasn't scaled down
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I think it just scaled down differently if I recall. I checked it a while back on the PTR in the 20's and incendiary still seemed best... I think. TBH I forgot but I still use incendiary. I feel like incendiary actually fared better from scaling at low levels.

edit- here ya go:
Warglave said:
They are very close at 59 on live, incendiary did 1183 and frost did 1052 with 5.6 vers... not that similar at low levels. At 23 (or 4) incendiary hit for 451 and frost for 401 with 3.5% vers. Seems weird, so i'll double check, but not scaling down the same.

I can check the PTR in a bit, but i'd wager the outcome to be similar. I'll let you know.

edit- at 59 on the PTR incendiary hit for 864 and frost hit for 767. Same toon as above.
at 24 on the PTR incendiary hit for 304 and frost hit for 272, again same toon as above.
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I ran a few BGs and Frost Laced was doing 10% of my damage overall on a 29 MM hunter which is geared. I did notice a lot of folk were limping around probably from the frostyness. Ran 2 BGs with Incendiary and was 5% and 9% of total. Frost L might be better now, but need to test more.
 
SPQR said:
No new enchantings are being added.
Historically only x.2 patches tend to bring new zones/materials and thus new type of crafts.
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Oh sorry, I should have been more clear. I was wondering if there was any more news regarding our current scopes - just checking in to see if I should be changing my incendiary ammo yet :)
 
Kudzu said:
Oh sorry, I should have been more clear. I was wondering if there was any more news regarding our current scopes - just checking in to see if I should be changing my incendiary ammo yet :)
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The last thing i tested.

SPQR said:
BM

crow s nest scope - 6% crit
deadly navigation - 6% crit (Longer overall buff uptime)

frost ammon - 221normal 442 crit
incendiary - 249normal 498 crit

Flint - 51 dmg on proc and 30 agility ( 8 ish dmg exta on cobra, 26 ish dmg exta on Kill command
xray - 11 extra dmg on cobra shot, 18 extra dmg on kill comand
Lord blastingtons scope - 17 agility (5 ish dmg exta on arcane shot , 20 ish dmg exta on Kill command )

MM

crow s nest scope - 6% crit
deadly navigation - 6% crit (Longer overall buff uptime)

frost ammon - 221normal, 442 crit
incendiary - 249normal, 498 crit

Flint - 51 dmg on proc and 30 agility (17 ish dmg exta on arcane shot , 70 ish dmg exta on aim shot)
xray - 13 extra on arcane shot, 93 eaxta on aim shot
Lord blastingtons scope - 17 agility (10 ish dmg exta on arcane shot , 40 ish dmg exta on aim shot)

Only notable change is that kill command equation no longer favors attack power
thus Flint is better than xray for bm now.

If you favor constancy over rng then Lord blastingtons scope is what you should use over incendiary.
20% is not going to change anything and hardly noticeable.
All comes down to opinions i guess.
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Past that maybe only bfa healing enchant on some gun for pve when u mend your pet.
That seems to proc rather often.

Tbh just get every possible enchant on loom gun and you 90% set.
 
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