US State of 20-29 bracket PvP in BfA...

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Hey all, I haven’t played WoW since maybe June or July before BfA launched. I’m just curious how things are going in this bracket, as I spent by far most of my time in 20-29 BGs. Any major changes? Same old same old? Is the difference between all random white gear and BiS still only like 1-2% stat difference, or does gear actually matter again?
 
Welcome back. Be careful not to discard any potentially grandfathered items on your old characters (mainly referring to item level changes).
 
US 20-29 is pretty shayt. Its mostly levelers and stocked up 29s and most games are landslides in one direction or the other.
 
Howso? I have a level 20 (il24) and was getting destroyed by level 29 (il33). Do BG's scale, so they'd be even?
You'll scale up to 29 in BGs but your gear wont. Youd, in essence, be a 19 twink that leveled to 29 without ever replacing gear.

You're at a slight disadvantage and alot of it depends on class makeup but its not a huge problem. I dont have any trouble doing well on my 20s.
 
Ok. Seemed like I was seriously over powered by the 29's. My ilevel was 24, there's was 33, I looked them up.
 
Honestly 30-39 seems to be where people are gravitating towards right now but 20-29 definitely isn't dead. My arena team queues BGs and Arenas all the time its just a matter of getting more people back around to it again. Also you gotta always factor in the new patch just dropped a couple weeks ago as well as the new raid + pvp season starting again Tuesday.

Hopefully we see some sort of tournament in the works soon for 29s. Any official postings will most likely bring a mass majority of players in.

**prays 29s sees competitive play soon zzz**
 
20-29 still has faster Q times than 30-39 in my experience and 30-39 isn't nearly as populated idc what these noobs say it won't grow to even 25% of 20-29 population

I'm playing multiple 29s actively again specific Q wsg + ab. Noticed Quelthalas players have improved. I was very impressed by a few players from that server.

Also @mods should ban anyone who mentions me or @ me in an attempt to compare another player to my greatness for example ban @Vianco for that ridiculous comment in that closed thread
 
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Been shaman since vanilla my friend. Resto since TBC. Pretty much all I do outside of odd questing here and there is healing. I find DPSing too repetitive.
Shamans are jacks of all trades, masters of none. Very rarely has the shaman been the “best” in any patch. Nor have they been the worst. The class has it’s niche and has performed well for what initially to do.

/cheers
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Also @mods should ban anyone who mentions me or @ me in an attempt to compare another player to my greatness for example ban @Vianco for that ridiculous comment in that closed thread

Kek...
Asks for ban because someone mentions him then proceeds to mention someone. Oh my...

/cheerz
 
29's is probably the most balanced bracket... even more so after the elemental force nerf if that happens.

19s: This bracket is just straight trash right now. There are 3-4 actual playable specs. It is trash

29s: Most balanced

39s: Basically the 29s, except the good classes are super good and the not so good classes become even worse because of that

49s: Straight up trinket trash... same as the 39s... the good classes are great and it hurts the bracket too much.

59+ Who gives a shit, terrible.

29s:
But, there are a lot of kids that truly enjoy zero challenge and stomping pugs... again this is 100% a mental disorder and should be treated as such... so as somebody said before... 5 man que or get farmed during anything but the worst off peak hours.

The only truly unplayable specs are FERAL and Enhancement. (and I say that from being full twinked out and still worthless)
 
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The only truly unplayable specs are FERAL and Enhancement. (and I say that from being full twinked out and still worthless)

People keep saying this and folks like neon keep proving them wrong

Feral and enhancement are fine. It's just that every melee class really needs a healer and if you're gonna have a healer, why not roll a warrior? I've healed a number of feral and enhancement players to great success
 
People keep saying this and folks like neon keep proving them wrong

Feral and enhancement are fine. It's just that every melee class really needs a healer and if you're gonna have a healer, why not roll a warrior? I've healed a number of feral and enhancement players to great success

It depends on what you think is "fine" I guess.. Neon to his own admission does about 30k per bg and about half that damage is elemental force, not anything to actually do with feral... great. That does not really put a feather in anybody's butt-crack. Maybe "Unplayable" was the wrong word choice... enhancement has alot of mulitarget bad damage spells that just make it suck-ass at burst, or really putting the hurt on anything... ... enhance is just crippled a lot by the current state of 29s... just like feral.

Ehancement has ghost wolf, earth bind, and wind shear!!!!!!!!... so do the other 2 specs that don't completely suck.
 
It depends on what you think is "fine" I guess.. Neon to his own admission does about 30k per bg and about half that damage is elemental force... great. That does not really put a feather in anybody's butt-crack. Maybe "Unplayable" was the wrong word choice... enhancement has alot of mulitarget bad damage spells that just make it suck-ass at burst, or really putting the hurt on anything... ... enhance is just crippleda lot by the current state of 29s... just like feral.

Ehancement has ghost wolf, earth bind, and wind shear!!!!!!!!... so do the other 2 specs that don't completely suck.

I mean, they aren't great and I can't say id try to make them work in a wargames setting. But they're in a fine enough place that if you like the spec/playfeel then you can play them and probably bat better than .500
 
I mean, they aren't great and I can't say id try to make them work in a wargames setting. But they're in a fine enough place that if you like the spec/playfeel then you can play them and probably bat better than .500

This is why I hate these forums, I think you just did some leonardo dicaprio inception ****, cause now I want to make an enhancement shaman. :(
 

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