EU+US What gem gives 6 Str? Also What is the material?

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Making a timewalking set and figured I'd ask this community. My 119 isnt able to see gems scaled correctly unless I'm in an instance so figuring this out in-game isn't very practical

Also... Does the 5 str 4 stam gem from shattered halls drop on normal? Is it unique equip?
 
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Dreams said:
https://www.wowhead.com/item=30559/etched-tanzanite and https://www.wowhead.com/item=30584/inscribed-fire-opal are considered better gems. They both drop from heroic dungeons, shadow labs and mana tombs respectively.
If you really want +6 str gems the standard is https://www.wowhead.com/item=32193/bold-crimson-spinel.
The mats can be found from black temple and sunwell trash.
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edited my comment. also wondering about 5 str 4 stam one. might go for str crit one tho. Are they unique?
 
Roboartist said:
Making a timewalking set and figured I'd ask this community. My 119 isnt able to see gems scaled correctly unless I'm in an instance so figuring this out in-game isn't very practical

Also... Does the 5 str 4 stam gem from shattered halls drop on normal? Is it unique equip?
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Just curious what you mean by timewalking set and for what characters? Are you talking about the 119 you mentioned, and if so why would you want these gems at all? Also, I'm really curious about 119s and haven't found much in the way of armories, would you mind linking your toon?
 
Outofspace said:
Just curious what you mean by timewalking set and for what characters? Are you talking about the 119 you mentioned, and if so why would you want these gems at all? Also, I'm really curious about 119s and haven't found much in the way of armories, would you mind linking your toon?
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Timewalking set is just a set of old gear that has gem slots and enchants that gives more benifits that most endgame gear scaled down in those dungeons/raids. My armory isn’t showing up atm due to recent faction change, but there’s a thread about anniversary bosses on the forum and people are linking theirs. It’s pretty fun. It’s pretty much like endgame, except everyone else is like 1-2 tiers lower than you and you can sometimes solo 2-4 people depending on your class. Average ilvl of a 119 right now is about 305-310 and levelers are like 250 and sometimes less.meaning your health is about 75k and theirs is 40-60k
 
Outofspace said:
Just curious what you mean by timewalking set and for what characters? Are you talking about the 119 you mentioned, and if so why would you want these gems at all? Also, I'm really curious about 119s and haven't found much in the way of armories, would you mind linking your toon?
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It's a headache of a bracket to twink in. You need to faction change to make a good twink because the only twink gear is rng quest reward warforges etc. There is no bad luck protection on quest reward as well so you can be screwed to hell.
 
Dreams said:
Actually it's a +5 +6, and unfortunately only drops on heroic, like the others. None of them are unique :)
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can someone verify .. i dont think there is any for str/stam that is +5 +6 .. only the intel ones has a +5 int +6 stam .. the str and agil are +5 str +4 stam, and +5 agil +4 stam

i am also a player who likes to go for stam instead of crit .. for some reason i dont trust crit .. during previous expac, i have toons having crit exceeding 100% and close to 100%, which technically speaking, every of my hit should be a crit, but it doesnt work that way, and i cant "feel" that additional % of crit does any shock and awe .. i usually just let the crit be whatever is from the gears, and gems and enchants for other stats instead
 
Merlin said:
can someone verify .. i dont think there is any for str/stam that is +5 +6 .. only the intel ones has a +5 int +6 stam .. the str and agil are +5 str +4 stam, and +5 agil +4 stam
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I guess it could just be an armory scaling issue, but I was looking at danny and aishalyns armories.
Also when I look at the gem on my level 70 rogue it shows +5/+6, so I think it's correct.
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Dreams said:
I guess it could just be an armory scaling issue, but I was looking at danny and aishalyns armories.
Also when I look at the gem on my level 70 rogue it shows +5/+6, so I think it's correct.
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did you had these gems long ago, or you had it after bfa releases ? the gems that drop now, might have their stats changed .. if it is still dropping +5+6 i will need to farm them .. been looking high and low for +5str+6stam .. did the heroics 70s dungeon, stats are not what was stated before
 
Merlin said:
did you had these gems long ago, or you had it after bfa releases ? the gems that drop now, might have their stats changed .. if it is still dropping +5+6 i will need to farm them .. been looking high and low for +5str+6stam .. did the heroics 70s dungeon, stats are not what was stated before
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Yes, they are still +5/+6. Shattered Halls is the only dungeon to drop it (Heroic)
 
They are def 5/6 not sure why you're so skeptical. Farmed some just a month ago, they are on the war in my sig. Shattered Halls only, but there are a few other options if you like stam. There's 5 crit 6 stam gems in the Mechanar and in Blood Furnace.
 
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No one else mentioned what a bear these are to get, so just a heads up, this will take a while. If you want to roll nothing but 5/6 gems in say 20 slots I would expect it to take somewhere around 60-70 runs, which means the same number of days if you're only doing Halls. What I did was run the 5 dungeons that give favorable gems (5 str/6 stam, 5 crit/6 stam, 5 str/4 crit, 5 str/4 vers) everyday until I had all my slots covered. Then I started to pair down my daily runs to just Halls/Labs/Tombs, but you would only be doing Halls for this phase, so it will take a long time.
 
tomxoqt said:
It's a headache of a bracket to twink in. You need to faction change to make a good twink because the only twink gear is rng quest reward warforges etc. There is no bad luck protection on quest reward as well so you can be screwed to hell.
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No it isn't.

BiS is obtained by the anniversary event and timewalking. Although anniversary is annual, timewalking gear is still very powerful and you will out-gear people in BGs by a large factor.
 
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yes i know .. i have tons of the +5 int +6 stam gems .. i put over 40 of my toons on that dungeon alone .. Sethekk Halls, including the toons that doesnt use intel, farming for a long long time .. because whenever i want to gear an intel user using BOE with sockets, i send the gear to those toons which has the BOP +5/+6, socket them, and send it the gears back to the toon needing it .. the BOE gears remains BOE even after socketing the gems
 
There is also a 5agil 6 stam gem, but is unique so can only have 1 socketed
Merlin said:
can someone verify .. i dont think there is any for str/stam that is +5 +6 .. only the intel ones has a +5 int +6 stam .. the str and agil are +5 str +4 stam, and +5 agil +4 stam

i am also a player who likes to go for stam instead of crit .. for some reason i dont trust crit .. during previous expac, i have toons having crit exceeding 100% and close to 100%, which technically speaking, every of my hit should be a crit, but it doesnt work that way, and i cant "feel" that additional % of crit does any shock and awe .. i usually just let the crit be whatever is from the gears, and gems and enchants for other stats instead
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Merlin said:
i am also a player who likes to go for stam instead of crit .. for some reason i dont trust crit .. during previous expac, i have toons having crit exceeding 100% and close to 100%, which technically speaking, every of my hit should be a crit, but it doesnt work that way, and i cant "feel" that additional % of crit does any shock and awe .. i usually just let the crit be whatever is from the gears, and gems and enchants for other stats instead
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As an old school twinker who played mostly 49s and lower, I've always treated stam as a top priority stat just after your main. Now that I focus on higher brackets I've adjusted my formula considerably to where 6 stam is essentially dead even with 4 crit. About a quarter of my gems are the 5/6 though because I like to be over 10k and they are a great way to itemize hp. But basically we're debating +1200 hp vs +9% crit. For me the crit is too good, specially considering crit procs.

There are times when yeah the stam would be favorable, for instance arenas where you're paired with dps and fighting double dps, you will pretty much be the punching bag, however even then, one extra crit could be what lets your teammate mop up. Not only that but crit bloodthirsts translate to crit heals, adding even more hidden value.

Also, there are even better places to itemize stam if you really want it - there's the +22 stam glove kit and there's +17 stam bracer enchant as well as Tuskarr's Vitality to boots and there's a +13 stam to cloak I think. I have a few of these on alternate gear saved to a set so that I can bump up to about 13k hp if needed, but I wouldn't want to be stuck in that always; anything less than ~35% crit feels really sluggish on a warrior imo.
 
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