Nicozy
Anarchism
nope, I see full numbers with dejachar stats
Is this decent?
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artonkn
Royal Member
Hasnt been that way for a while
necroaqua
Grandfathered
This is another problem with legion templates...I've forgotten all the minute details and can't keep which details applied when. I think it still gives dodge though.
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OP
Tchobii
Legend
So i should use my ilvl 30 invasion head instead of engi head?
necroaqua
Grandfathered
Probably. The 8 agility is about the same damage as the 20 verse, so its the extra stam vs the crit/haste of the invasion helm. Invasion head for killing, goggles for carrying.
Bestworld
MBA
Yeah, and it also boosts your auto attack dmg, and tbf, that's something that's easily overlooked. Autos aren't a joke anymore.
You can run this script to check the percentage increase in damage / healing with pvp power by running this script:
/run print( GetPvpPowerDamage(), GetPvpPowerHealing() )
4 pvp power is equal to 2.728% increased damage / healing, making it good, just not better than 3 agi and 7 armor in my opinion. Best enchant for non agility (or hybrid) classes though.
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necroaqua
Grandfathered
Wait, don't both agility and verse up your autos?
A straight up 2.7% damage boost is gonna be hard to beat. If we use the rough numbers of 1 agi = 2.5 verse, and each verse adds .25% damage, then the 3 agi * 2.5 * .25% = ~1.9%. To check that from the tooltips...3 agi changes SS for me 108->110 (1.85%). For 5pt dispatch, its 430->435 (1.16%). Pistol is 85->87 (2.35%). Some of that is due to rounding and how each skill uses weapon damage vs AP...but it seems fairly in line.
Bestworld
MBA
I have more auto attack damage with my ilvl 30 invasion head than master engineer's goggles.
Master Engineer's:
Invasion:
necroaqua
Grandfathered
Right. Because 8 ap is slightly better than 20 verse. I thought for a second you were saying that the goggles didn't increase autos at all.
Swoops
Legend
Can you check the actual numbers you're getting between those too? I can't really figure out white damage contributions, been getting some weird stuff on my character sheet numbers (with deja). Like wearing a Scout's Medallion has showed lower damage than no neck at all, and some other inconsistent spots where adding stats drops it. My actual melee attacks are higher with the higher stats though.
fahr
Veteran
How much is your vers%?I have more auto attack damage with my ilvl 30 invasion head than master engineer's goggles.
Master Engineer's:
Invasion:
Bestworld
MBA
Yapah
Legend
So you're losing out on 5% extra damage on ele force/satyr for a tiny boost in physical damage? Goggles are still BiS imo
necroaqua
Grandfathered
The 8 agi is more physical damage, and don't forget the crit/haste also add to the enchants. They are both very good options. And for anyone who has anything less than the ilvl 30 WF invasion helm, goggles are the easy choice.
Swoops
Legend
Hidden Satyr scales off AP too. Idk what the exact conversion is though, it seems to have a bit of a range and it's hard to track down detailed enchant info.
Yapah
Legend
Swoops
Legend
Yup, definitely. Easy to overlook vers's effect on procs.
Bestworld
MBA
You're also giving up crit. You still want some crit as rogue as well, and the ilvl 30 invasion helm just fits in nicely with the last couple of stats overall, and you only really see a difference in ele force damage on the crits. Normal ele force procs are around the same range no matter the head.