EU+US Why Twinking has become better in Legion. Asking about the attitude problem.

Since when was Ohti considered a hardcore twink?

please explain what advantages twink had in stats/gear advantage in locked xp battlegrounds?
or are you talking about the joke of a bracket that is F2Ps?
buying a sub isnt pay 2 win.



Yeah, hardcore twinks got bored of destroying levellers and realised this battleground re-merge wasnt how they pictured this expansion before playing it.

sorry.



I said that pre-emptively knowing they would start cleaning it up after I brought the discussion here, and they did..sooo...

You are a predictor of the future now? Can I have the lotto numbers for tomorrow night?

/cheers
 
Many classes/specs have MORE abilities at 20 then they did in WoD; affliction/destro (rip demo tho) shadow, ret, all warrior specs, hunters with spirit beasts etc... It's a great time to be f2p/vet.....especially considering that the last xpac had 30 minute-1 hour queues. Playing against levelers honestly feels about the same as solo-queue randoms at max level......there's always people that don't understand objectives or how to play their spec.

Also, the prospect of legion level-scaling in Azeroth next Xpac......holy shit.
 
I made a general statement, if you are offended it's because you agree with me haha.



You mean before templated BGs where you had access to real enchants? Or rolling 29's/24's to gain extra skills ( don't pretend it doesn't matter, Rogues are only decent at the moment at 29 for example ). Oh wait you're talking about the 19s in the 20-29 forums for some reason? I think I remember that the 19s folded right after the XPoff BGs rolled out, and had to coordinate on the forums to even get games. But basically your question is kind of a trick question considering turning off your XP was a explicit action to put yourself in that bracket, so one would assume that no one would sign up without full enchants. Funny enough, the environment you laud is what we call a "level playing field" where all twinks have equal gearing, though there will still be class balance issues. If you are looking to experience a level playing field BG you should check out the 20s.

Not to interfere or anything, since I like bickering as much as the next guy..

But to substantiate the 19 vs 20-29 discussion with some factual material which I think might help clear up some confusion, here is what happened the first time I, as a 19s player, did a 20-24 BG as an F2P char:

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At this point in time F2P's were crying that destro was OP and affliction was useless and bottom tier, so I figured I'd take em up on that challenge;

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The common F2P is just rly bad... Sorry its true, not to say there were not rly good players, just there were an ocean of mediocrity
in between the good ones.

Now, carry on.
 
But to substantiate the 19 vs 20-29 discussion with some factual material which I think might help clear up some confusion, here is what happened the first time I, as a 19s player, did a 20-24 BG as an F2P char. At this point in time F2P's were crying that destro was OP and affliction was useless and bottom tier, so I figured I'd take em up on that challenge;
Give yourself a pat on the back and a gold star for effort, I mean what a feat you achieved :)
 
Not to interfere or anything, since I like bickering as much as the next guy..

But to substantiate the 19 vs 20-29 discussion with some factual material which I think might help clear up some confusion, here is what happened the first time I, as a 19s player, did a 20-24 BG as an F2P char:

CRY8Lhd.jpg


At this point in time F2P's were crying that destro was OP and affliction was useless and bottom tier, so I figured I'd take em up on that challenge;

sOBfe4Z.jpg

18JbLXs.jpg


The common F2P is just rly bad... Sorry its true, not to say there were not rly good players, just there were an ocean of mediocrity
in between the good ones.

Now, carry on.

You got out dmged by someone called twink, kinda sad
 
I love that we finally see the hardcore "twinks" admit that the only reason they twink is to 1 shot scrubs. Thank you Legion!

Gotta love the hypocrisy of supposedly "1337 tw1nkz" crying that they don't have a stats/gear advantage and that FoTMs can kill them. Maybe check out runescape if that is still running? I heard you can pay to win there right! hahaha.

It's more-so that you can customize your character for certain situations. Swapping to appropriate gear sets on-the-fly to adjust to a certain situation is a skill in itself. This marxist approach of everyone is equal means that you lost the ability to customize your character entirely. This creates an even bigger gap between fotm and non-fotm classes. And if you're unable to see that, then that's because you never went in-depth when it came to min-max'ing your character.

But my guess is your view is from an f2p angle? Meaning, you probably didn't have access to a lot of ressources in the first place, so I guess that doesn't affect you in the same sense, since you had very little customization to begin with. But not being able to customize your character in order to deal with different scenarios seems like a huge loss to me.

But those who gave zero fucks about putting effort into their toons are of course rubbing their greasy fingers right now. Back when you went f2p, that usually meant you were content with that, and what it had to offer. You knew what you were getting yourself into. You played by those limitations.

The so-called "pay to win" phrase doesn't apply to World of Warcraft in the same way as other games. First of all, you should be appreciative for having a trial account that isn't limited by time, but rather by ingame restrictions. Secondly, the whole reason as to why the "pay to win" phrase doesn't apply to this game, is because you can't pay more than the normal subscription amount to get items that actually benifits you ingame. The Blizzard store is all vanity items. It doesn't improve the strength of your character. This game is meant to be played with a subscription.
Now, a REAL scenario of "pay to win" is when you can buy weapons, armor, whatever-the-fuck from the store that will enhance your character to have an advantage over other players. You can't do that in World of Warcraft. If this game was meant to be pure f2p to begin with, it would have been released without a subscription in the first place. So bitching about "pay to win" when you have the privilege to play a trial that is not limited by time (which a lot of trials are by the way - 30 days etc.) is fucking beyond me. Play the game like millions of others, or play by the limitations.
 
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tbh when you spend gold worth $1,000 on bis items and stuff it quickly does become p2w tho
 
You got out dmged by someone called twink, kinda sad

24 SP vs F2P Aff.

The Twinks Legion Spawn, lol..

Give yourself a pat on the back and a gold star for effort, I mean what a feat you achieved :)

Point is, a 19 achieves everything this bracket has to offer within 3 games, then leave again caus no competition = no fun. Even the few good F2P's left.

Why dont you roll a fresh 19, do 3 games and show us your SS's, according to the ppl in this thread you should be MVP, rite ? rofl gl.
 
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24 SP vs F2P Aff.

The Twinks Legion Spawn, lol..



Point is, a 19 achieves everything this bracket has to offer within 3 games, then leave again caus no competition = no fun. Even the few good F2P's left.

Why dont you roll a fresh 19, do 3 games and show us your SS's, according to the ppl in this thread you should be MVP, rite ? rofl gl.

Get good
 
I'm going to do a video in a weeks time to explain in depth pros and cons of this xpac to previous xpacs.

Will be a RL vid inc...

Link in thread, when it's out man. I wanna see that. It's so much easier agreeing, understanding or just getting to terms with someone elses opinions, by just hearing them take the time to speak out about it instead :) Cuz like yeah, I have my opinion stated clearly in the mainpost. But after making it, I understand alot of the views on this topic.. Wether I agree or disagree is very individual, But seeing so many different opinions makes it abit bigger than what I first realized, I can admit.
 
Link in thread, when it's out man. I wanna see that. It's so much easier agreeing, understanding or just getting to terms with someone elses opinions, by just hearing them take the time to speak out about it instead :) Cuz like yeah, I have my opinion stated clearly in the mainpost. But after making it, I understand alot of the views on this topic.. Wether I agree or disagree is very individual, But seeing so many different opinions makes it abit bigger than what I first realized, I can admit.

So you're admitting you have no idea what you're talking about?
 

Not sure what there is to lol over. If you don't see the situational power of blind then you're, well, blind. Like I said, not game breaking but a definite difference maker. I've seen it win WSGs.

In general though I come from a team play background, so I'm far less impressed with one OP char controlled by a player who hit the lvl 19 skill ceiling. Even when enchants were available, they were autopilot, no skill necessary. Potting at the right moment? Timing one of your "lol" skills as some might consider them? Sounds like you're better off in Arena to me.

Meh. Like I said, I prefer focusing on the team aspect of a team oriented BG. Worst thing blizz ever did was make the stupid KB chart. You can top that chart in AB fighting in the road the whole time while you lose.

Does wargames still let you choose your enemy group? It seems like 19s could still coordinate to have their private MVP quality super twink parties if they wanted right?
 

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