Tollo
RIP <Quality Control>
I <3 ElvUI
Elv actually trialed with my guild for a few weeks but thought our attitude for hc raiding was too lax lol
Crippy, was that w3 M or H Kargath?
I wanna raid again when I graduate from college.. just don't have the time to commit as a senior.
I main warlock and still friends with most of the warlock TC community (Hedo, Haunter, Reckless)
Edit: RIP <The Church> Nov 2016
HC raiding from TBC - WoD with best rank US 65th 25H Garrosh
Elv actually trialed with my guild for a few weeks but thought our attitude for hc raiding was too lax lol
Crippy, was that w3 M or H Kargath?
I wanna raid again when I graduate from college.. just don't have the time to commit as a senior.
I main warlock and still friends with most of the warlock TC community (Hedo, Haunter, Reckless)
Edit: RIP <The Church> Nov 2016
HC raiding from TBC - WoD with best rank US 65th 25H Garrosh
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inoobupro
Banned
PvE>PvP in this game
Mobs are usually more intelligent and persistent thus providing a greater challenge ...so ..nice try
Tollo
RIP <Quality Control>
Sanit
OG
no. absolutely not. after having played both pve and pvp at end game extensively this is false.
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Conq
Guest
I use a white Logitec G600 and I have my third clicker button as a mouse-over surging mist.
Allybeboba
Legend
I agree.
Although I choose not to "brag" about my stature amonst the WoW denizens of Vanilla-tWofLK.
You contradict yourself on this one. One post you state PvE was "A1". Yet in this post you indicate that PvP is better. Hmmmm....
/cheers
Sanit
OG
Are you slow or do you just try real hard to sound stupid? Yes, pve was A1. He said pve was HARDER than pvp. That is not true.
Sorry I feel the need to "brag," it usually happens when you're actually good at something. You should try it sometime.
Allybeboba
Legend
Players that states this have failed at the highest levels of end game PvE. Or have never tried it.
PvE and PvP are two totally different types of game play. If PvE was "easy" then more people would have the harder to have achievements. And if PvP was easier, more people would have the harder to have PvP achievements. They both require different "skill sets" to excel.
/cheers
Allybeboba
Legend
Insulting me is not going to get your point across. If anything, it will do the opposite.
Of course PvE is more difficult in certain aspects, as PvP is more difficult in certain aspects.
If I bragged about my ingame achievements as much as you all did, you all would "hate" me even more. I just don't need brag about video game achievements. Because that is all they are, fake video game achievements. I have nothing to prove to anyone here.
/cheers
Sanit
OG
No. You're wrong.
Pve will always be easier than pvp. After having played both EXTENSIVELY at high end levels (not bragging you fking chode, just giving my credentials ) I can confidently say that pve is a fuck ton easier. The only hard part is making sure 24 others don't fuck up.
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Conq
Guest
Pve is for people who arent smart enough to beat a human so they play against computers instead
Allybeboba
Legend
Ah...
So you are saying you carried your other 24-39 guild mates during a raid?
That is all part of the PvE experience, finding a team you can depend on. And one that can depend on you. Of coarse you would have known that, if you truly had played on the cutting edge of endgame PvE. A "good" raider does not point fingers. They try to come up with solutions to the challenges. Finger pointers server only to divide a team.
Opinions can not be "wrong", son. They can only be different. Free your mind, and the rest will follow.
/cheers
Allybeboba
Legend
I suppose many here have Mythic/Heroic achievements under their belt then, correct? Maybe even a few server firsts or other PvE grandfathered titles/achievements? Since they are so "smart".
/cheers
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Conq
Guest
I killed Ragnaros in vanilla does that count?
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Sanit
OG
Nope not once did I say that I carried 24 or 39 other people in a raid. I said that the difficult part in raiding is finding those 24 or 39 others that you can rely on to not fuck up. You could do with some reading lessons.
Once you're actually good at the game, however, you find that good players gravitate towards each other. That could be a reason as to why everyone hates you? Just a thought. Having played at a Top 5 US level (at my peak), I encountered hundreds of the United States best raiders. In MOST cases, these players were absolute dog shit at pvp. It's pretty easy to understand why, too, which is why I'm having trouble understanding why the fuck you're even trying to argue with me.
Yes, progression bosses are hard. However, you can always expect them to do the same thing at the same time. That's why we have DBM, to tell us exactly when to move out of the fire. It's not hard to watch a bunch of timers and act accordingly. Throw the same scripted boss doing the same thing over and over again at a group and EVENTUALLY they'll manage to take it down. If I have to explain how this differs from PvP then I'm really not sure what to say.
I'm well aware as to how opinions work as well by the way. You're entitled to have one, but at the same time I'm entitled to say you're a jack ass for having said opinion.
Allybeboba
Legend
You really can't help yourself with the personal insults can you? People believe that belittling others seem to make themselves look better. Actually, quite the opposite is true.
Since you were "in the top 5". What guild was this pray tell?
Even the "top guilds" took over four months to take down Yogg Zero Lights. Surely you have "Death's Demise" since you are so good.
I keep stating this and I will state it yet again. PvE just takes a different skill set than PvP. One is not better than the other. I have seen great PvPers have terrible raid awareness. And seen great PvEers get "tunnel vision" when attacking a foe. I have never once stated one is better than the other. You all are seeking a debate where there is none.
Ah...
But you said my opinion was "wrong". And in that, is where you are at fault.
Have a wonderful day!
/cheers