Mistweaver Monk (heal) resources

caribou said:
Hello,

I find it very hard to find any information about healing with a monk.

The only things guiding me at the moment are:

This post: http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f99/20-mistweaver-monk-44061/#post588720
And some resto drood gear :
- Freetoplayqt @ Aerie Peak - Community - World of Warcraft
- Beefstock @ Aerie Peak - Community - World of Warcraft

But i admit i'm not sure that's the way to go, any advices?
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Stamina and Spirit are both thresholds - meaning they are either useless or your most important stat, depending on the circumstances.

Stamina is the best stat if you think you are going to be taking large amounts of damage. As a monk, you generally can avoid stam stacking in Battlegrounds (Healers in arena should almost always stack stamina) because of rolls / Tiger's Lust.

Spirit is the best stat if you think you are going to be in fights long enough to run out of mana. As I understand it, Monks have amazing single target heals at the cost of a relatively high mana cost - so Spirit naturally fits in as being a very important stat to stack.

The next 3 stats are all based on scaling: Intellect, Haste, and Critical Strike.

As it stands, Intellect is the best stat for any healer - just in terms of raw scaling with spells. However, it's important to note that Surging Mist has zero scaling with Intellect. It's apparently a bug - or maybe it is an oversight on Blizzard's end, because MW's don't get Intellect->Attack Power scaling until level 42. So Intellect, while being very important, isn't as important for MW's as it is for other healers.

Haste has the benefit of reducing cast/channel times (obviously very good for Mistweavers), but also adding ticks and "partial ticks" to Heal over Time effects. The extra ticks and partial ticks are much stronger when the Heal over Time effects are strong - which, as it happens, Mistweavers have the best Heal over Time spells in the bracket. Haste is definitely the go-to secondary stat for Mistweavers. Haste + Int is your friend.

Critical Strike, having been nerfed to 150% damage/healing, is fairly down at the moment. It's just not what it used to be. Even if Crit had stayed at 200%, it wouldn't be the best stat for Mistweavers. Just as Haste scales with strong HoT effects, Critical Strike scales with strong base heals. As it happens, Mistweavers don't have the highest base healing - their only "flash of light" style spell is Surging Mist, which doesn't scale with their Primary Stat. So the only purpose for Critical Strike is as a Healing Per Second (HPS) boost, which it is currently fairly ineffective at accomplishing.
 
Thanks a lot for all those details!

There's one thing still confusing me though, It seems like intellect isn't giving me more mana (since MoP) and as you said isn't giving more spell power, so i'm only gaining spell crit chance?

Wouldn't that be better to let down the Int stat all together and focusing on Haste + Spirit instead?
 
I'll just chime in on the haste stuff. If you want to know how many extra ticks/partial ticks you get its:

(num of ticks with 0 haste)*(1+(haste%/100))

So if you normally get 7 ticks in a channel, not sure making this up. And lets say you have 10% haste:

7*(1.10)=7.7

So 7 full ticks
and 1 partial tick at 70% the strength of your other ticks.
 
caribou said:
Thanks a lot for all those details!

There's one thing still confusing me though, It seems like intellect isn't giving me more mana (since MoP) and as you said isn't giving more spell power, so i'm only gaining spell crit chance?

Wouldn't that be better to let down the Int stat all together and focusing on Haste + Spirit instead?
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Well hold up - Intellect does give spell power. It just doesn't give attack power (until level 42), which is what Surging Mist scales with. However, it does give spell power which scales quite nicely with Enveloping and Soothing Mists.

Hashbrowns said:
I'll just chime in on the haste stuff. If you want to know how many extra ticks/partial ticks you get its:

(num of ticks with 0 haste)*(1+(haste%/100))

So if you normally get 7 ticks in a channel, not sure making this up. And lets say you have 10% haste:

7*(1.10)=7.7

So 7 full ticks
and 1 partial tick at 70% the strength of your other ticks.
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This. <3 math.
 
Bop said:
Well hold up - Intellect does give spell power. It just doesn't give attack power (until level 42), which is what Surging Mist scales with. However, it does give spell power which scales quite nicely with Enveloping and Soothing Mists.
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Oh alright!

Now, pardon my ignorance, but how do i know by looking at Surging Mist that it scales with Attack power & not spell power!?
 
Hashbrowns said:
They have lol But probably not to the point that it would nullify your work.
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o lord hopping on for 30 min to find out whats new haha. i highly doubt things have changed that much but i may amend my post if thing did change
 
Snowjobs said:
o lord hopping on for 30 min to find out whats new haha. i highly doubt things have changed that much but i may amend my post if thing did change
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Basically scaling was bugged, it was grabbing our level as 29 and scaled all items to lvl 34. It should have grabbed our level as 20 and scaled items to 25.

At least that's what the thought is now.
 
Hashbrowns said:
Basically scaling was bugged, it was grabbing our level as 29 and scaled all items to lvl 34. It should have grabbed our level as 20 and scaled items to 25.

At least that's what the thought is now.
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so are secondary stats more beneficial atm ? how does that change anything ?
 
Snowjobs said:
so are secondary stats more beneficial atm ? how does that change anything ?
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No idea, i just found out and I'm AFK.
These babies have insane sp %'s though Enveloping Mist - Spell - World of Warcraft Soothing Mist - Spell - World of Warcraft so I doubt it will change.

We'll get less secondary's % that's for sure. Less scaled, same amount required per % point at 29=less overall secondary :( If the gear is scaling to 5 levels over (we were 4 in MoP) I imagine it's going to be almost exactly like what the gear numbers we had in MoP.
 
caribou said:
Thanks Snowjobs, i wasn't aware of your topic.

I've tried to stick your gear on some wowhead profile and here it is:

http://www.wowhead.com/list=4603938/flaugnarde-(future)

Not sure if the enchants are good, also i've noticed you put a Sorcerer Cloak - Item - World of Warcraft but it seems like it requires level 33?

Edit: ah ok you meant Tumultuous Cloak - Item - World of Warcraft
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In regards to your earlier post about how to know about scaling, you have to check the spell on Wowhead. There is no information given about scaling on the actual spell tooltip.

If you look up Surging Mist, it is kind of buggy though. The tooltip, even on Wowhead, is confusing. Basically it only scales from AP, though.
 
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