Opinion on WoD from the changes...
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Manny
Big Brain
Lol, most likely but i wanna see whats on everyone's mind instead of everyone exploding with all the info.
LennywBT
SpeeDIO
Yeah in some way they will!
Still , it will be beter i think , the stats , they told us that they will try to improve every brackets balance!
Aradiel
Legend
Absolutely. It's far too early to call. It won't be happening until the end of the year, and it will depend on what final numbers end up being.
There's a lot of changes coming, some good, some bad. That's how the game works. As soon as you get used to something, Blizz change it.
Tyramissoux
Legend
It'll make stuff easier - every expansion made the game easier. Like there's always night after a sunny day.
Scrubs need to be served. They are paying customers. We're not.
Scrubs need to be served. They are paying customers. We're not.
Allybeboba
Legend
Most changes are agreeable. The prepatch will probably drop late second quarter or early third. I am sure it will need some tweaking like 5.0. There will be the usual rerolls. The heirloom tab will make that easier for F2Ps actually. Presuming they have access. What has not been mentioned is the new neck and ring enchants! Professions will be less of a factor. Stamina may shoot through the roof. Every patch the gap closes between the trials and subscribers. Makes the bracket a better place to play. Just be ready to regear. That is half of the fun. Too bad we can't get another battleground.
Sweetsidney
Sweetsidney
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Phrontistery
i was making waves u was surfing in 'em
Didn't the most recent patch stretch the gap into a mountainous divide with the 90 enchants and all that? or are you speaking in terms of the heirloom tab making F2Ps easier to gear
shanker
OG
i think it will be better for F2P if they have access to BOA storage tab. one could start a paid account just to get BOA helm, leggings and cloaks then have accounts linked. stop the paid account when done.
F2P's having BOAs with top enchants, won't be a easy cake walk for P2P's. the only BIS enchants missing would be on bracers, gloves, boots, and in WOD perhaps neck and 1 ring
imo this would be a great gap closer, to top that, profession combat bonuses are being removed, so P2P will not have more stam, crit or haste/heal like they do now.
F2P's having BOAs with top enchants, won't be a easy cake walk for P2P's. the only BIS enchants missing would be on bracers, gloves, boots, and in WOD perhaps neck and 1 ring
imo this would be a great gap closer, to top that, profession combat bonuses are being removed, so P2P will not have more stam, crit or haste/heal like they do now.
shanker
OG
patch 5.3 closed the gap between the trials and subscribers in 20-24 bracket due to gear upscaling
patch 5.4 did not close the gap, when P2P now had access to shoulder, leg enchants, reactivated GF'd head enchants, high level enchants that out scaled preiviously used BIS enchants. this made many F2P classes and spec's unviable., gap was worse ever between trials and subscribers
danny glover
Officially Retired
well, it can't possibly be any worse than mop.
Allybeboba
Legend
So, you are saying, now, that the gap is worse than it has ever been? What specs were viable in 5.3 for F2P that are not viable now due to the enchant scaling? I am unaware of enchanting making a class spec unviable. But then again, pretty much all I do is play non flavor of the month heals.
Besides, very very few people have enchanted helms in this bracket. I for one only have it on a Lucky Fishing Hat on a 19. I am sure there are a few 20-24's that do, but they rarely play those particular toons. I even have some shoulders with resistance enchants on them.
The trials and subscribers need to stop making this an us vs. them all the time.
As was mentioned above, there are ways to get heirlooms( and other gear)to trial accounts. I have done it, others have done it. You just have to be persistent and creative.
/cheers
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Allybeboba
Legend
5.0 prepatch was pretty bad. Holy shock one shot for a week. You think hunters are bad now. EVERY battleground was full of holy paladin rerolls on both side for a few weeks.
Something similar is going to happen in the 6.0 prepatch. Have fun while it lasts. It not happens once an expansion this bad. It is the perfect time to find unclosed "loops". Every big patch is the perfect time, until it s hotfixed.
Sweetsidney
Sabzep
Legend
OK let's talk about the gap:
White gear f2p shaman: 877 Healthpoints 24 Spellpower
F2P geared: 1822 Healthpoints 124 Spellpower
F2P with your enchants: 3847 Healthpoints 204 Spellpower
I hope this puts the "gap" in perspective. It's an us vs. them because we are worlds apart. And it is not about us TI folks that we can't join them. But we know we would just be the in the minority on the other side of the gap which does not seem too desirable. When we complain about 24s it's about this "abyss" that sets us apart.
Allybeboba
Legend
I am quite flattered that you went to the trouble of looking up one of my toons seeing as I do not link them. /blush If you went to that much trouble you will also note that I am unguilded and that I am a level 20 and a heal.
My toon is specifically enchanted for survivability and to heal. Guess who I mostly heal? Trials... I rarely FC. I rarely attack. As I do not have a superiority complex. Practically all I do is heal and dispell. I do not heal GY farmers, period.
Besides, each and every enchant and piece of gear that my toons have are available to trials in some form or fashion. Perhaps not a so called "pure" trial, whatever that is.
/cheers
Sweetsidney
Lil
SV huntard
Is this whole post a joke?? When did she say anything about gy farming/how you play? Zep said that the gap between a f2p and p2p is huge and ALOT more than you are making it sound, which it is. I've been here since Oct '11 and I can very safely say that this is by FAR the most imbalanced this bracket has ever been f2p-p2p wise. And to be blunt if you think/say otherwise are simply not worth my time to try and explain to you like sabzep did.
To post about the WoD changes, people please reread everything not what you want to read. You are thinking spells are being removed or classes are being nerfed when they really aren't... As of now (which ik there will be PLENTY of changes) this bracket is going to be far more imbalanced come WoD
Allybeboba
Legend
I must be worth your time, you took the time to spew your usual vitriol. Didn't you you " quit " a few months ago?
You really should try positive thinking, it is good for your health.
Simply because someone's opinion differs from yours does not necessarily make yours correct. It just makes if different.
Have a wonderful day everyone. +
Sweetsidney