Lvl 24 Arena server idea, your thoughts?

[Honey Badger]

that eyepatch thing was a player ran tourney those were his rules not the servers but its fine, i wish the best for this 24 arena server, the only thing that i could see being an issue is all those enchants next patch.

I mentioned this would be after sept 10 to see what adjustments need to be done as a community to arena , such as vanilla enchants only n so on. The difference between a f2p arenas and one I'm suggesting are:

f2p arena will also have some sort of restrictions . Such as class, eyepatch, agm or even f2p like kale with guild boas n not acceptable.

Alexstraza - 24 arenas anything goes 20 with or without restriction & 24s

f2p have some code don't interact with 24s or group up in bgs with.

Alexstrasza - we encourage playing with f2p n 24 no alienating on Alex

***** f2p u roll on that server your stuck there. You have no idea what connected realms you will be thrown in with next patch.

***** Alexstrasza - we are going on strong 2 yrs hell extended trial paved the way here, then came Sanctuary. I rather make a toon on an active server with plans to grow.


**** Biggest reason

Or am I wrong?

 

[Twinkenstein]

I suspect you misinterpreted what I wrote. Judging by your comment and the previous one... Let me clarify

I'm calling the attitudes of many of the F2P players on that server, bad,for lack of a better word (at least in game). Evidence of this can be seen in this thread (teehee), interactions with numerous players who reside there and frankly, reading posts spattered all over TI. I am making no remark on anyone's skill at playing arena or the game, nor would I care to, I'm sure you are all quite good.

As for instigating drama, that post was no more inflammatory than the preceding ones. I was posting my reasoning for why my dear friend Kibbies idea of Korgath doesn't work for me, but maybe Alex would. I'm sure I'm not alone in that boat! Frankly, a lot of the people on Korgath (and all over WoW to be honest) behave like goons. I'm allowed to decide who's company I keep.

Don't be offended

i can assure you no one here acts superior, if so we wouldn't be openly recruiting anyone who wants to join the server. the people on the server now are extremely nice like the fellows over at twinking.net, and i really do think the last time uve logged on the server was before it died and came back because there has been no drama since. i really dont see how you could think people like, kochi, wizkids bop, and everyone else have bad attitudes, but everyones entitled to their own opinion.

I mentioned this would be after sept 10 to see what adjustments need to be done as a community to arena , such as vanilla enchants only n so on. The difference between a f2p arenas and one I'm suggesting are:

f2p arena will also have some sort of restrictions . Such as class, eyepatch, agm or even f2p like kale with guild boas n not acceptable.

Alexstraza - 24 arenas anything goes 20 with or without restriction & 24s

f2p have some code don't interact with 24s or group up in bgs with.

Alexstrasza - we encourage playing with f2p n 24 no alienating on Alex

***** f2p u roll on that server your stuck there. You have no idea what connected realms you will be thrown in with next patch.

***** Alexstrasza - we are going on strong 2 yrs hell extended trial paved the way here, then came Sanctuary. I rather make a toon on an active server with plans to grow.


**** Biggest reason

Or am I wrong?

The problem is the majority of people dont understand the restrictions or dont like them, which i experienced myself when i first started korgath and i had to change it to no restrictions, and say OP Classes are frowned upon etc. Most players bg and they use the best gear and enchants they can get and they wont understand why they cant use it in arena or just not be down for it. Plus some people may not want to get a whole new set of gear and enchants just for arenas.

 

[Honey Badger]

The problem is the majority of people dont understand the restrictions or dont like them, which i experienced myself when i first started korgath and i had to change it to no restrictions. Most players bg and they use the best gear and enchants they can get and they wont understand why they cant use it in arena or just not be down for it. Plus some people may not want to get a whole new set of gear and enchants just for arenas.

Thats the difference between me and you. I love what you done over there on korgath, but Im Honeybadger I don't care what others think. I do what i feel is best for community, i am open to positive and negative feedback , but at the end of the day i do what i want. Not because im cocky but because i have to put my name on it. In order for me to put my name on it, i have to feel comfortable with it. Your response should be " I think its awesome that everyone is becoming more Arena driven" Let's keep it positive I should be promoting yours to f2ps and you should be promoting mine. Im sure you have p2p 20s with restrictions. Lets give people options. Lvl 24 can make f2ps as well. "WIN WIN"

If you feel your arena needs restrictions stick to your guns.




/Thank you for the bumps

 

[Twinkenstein]

Thats the difference between me and you. I love what you done over there on korgath, but Im Honeybadger I don't care what others think. I do what i feel is best for community, i am open to positive and negative feedback , but at the end of the day i do what i want. Not because im cocky but because i have to put my name on it. In oder for me to put my name on it, i have to feel comfortable with it. Your response should be " I think its awesome that everyone is becoming more Arena driven" Let's keep it positive I should be promoting yours to f2ps and you should be promoting mine. Im sure you have p2p 20s with restrictions. Lets give people options. Lvl 24 can make f2ps as well. "WIN WIN"

If you feel your arena needs restrictions stick to your guns.




/Thank you for the bumps

yes our servers are very different, u have a server with people on it already which is easier than having to start with a server from the ground up, korgath is to get arenas going as much as possible and only way to do that is more people, you have the people so you should be fine with doing whatever you want to do, but im sure alexstraza as the whole community isnt all for arenas. best of luck

 

[Honey Badger]

You see we just had a civil discussion, Agree to disagree. Welcome to the new 24 forums.

#backseatmoderating

 

[danny glover]

What's a goon to a goblin?

 

[Livingforce]

Hey HB as you know im always up for arenas but im not on half the time coz I work during when you guys play, maby I can do the AUS/NZ Arenas while US/Can ect do theirs? It makes it easy because both my 24 priests are on alex anyways. Will be harder to get games for my time but I think we can build it up. I second this motion.

 

[Bop]

The only dramatic posts made have been by people accusing korgath of being dramatic :3 If you haven't been on Korgath recently, don't trash talk our server please. If you're interested in this server and not in Korgath, why even start by saying "I would be down for this because korgath is a bunch of over dramatic goons."

You don't know that O.O By saying that you are being over dramatic. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but stating it publicly can be considered flaming. Flaming, as it happens, is against the rules.

So let's take this a positive way, instead of restating an opinion given 3 times now. Korgath is a very positive server that has been growing rapidly for months. Arenas go on every day, and the people here are both excellent in attitude and in skill. You are welcome to join Korgath, but new opportunities for arenas on different servers are certainly excellent. As the OP has stated, the transition into a more arena minded bracket is certainly a good one to make.

Help that, don't be critical of others. Especially when you are flat. Dead. Wrong.

Jus Mah Too Sens

 

[lokah]

I'm sure Arena will still be fine next patch. I know I'll be stacking some extra stamina here and there.

 

[Niveah]

im dtf i wanna arena on my spriest

 

[Kochist]

I play on Korgath and it is a great community for F2P Arena. I do not think there needs to be any rivalry and hope that you can also bring about quality games. Here are my thoughts on Arena:

I would suggest to focus on 3v3 instead of 2v2. It is much easier to make a balanced 3v3 game. I know it is difficult to get more players but having Quality matches is better then Quantity.

I understand your point of "F2P has restrictions while 24 will be anything goes", but you can not just have people make random 2v2 teams with whoever is online and then expect them to be fun.

We did not ban Hunters on Korgath, we just try to make teams balanced. As a result of trying to balance the teams we have found it to be difficult to put a Hunter on a team because they are just too good. The problem is when one person plays a Hunter and then the other team decides they need to counter the Hunter by switching out a team member (like a Mage or Lock) in exchange for something like a Hunter or Prot Paladin. This turns into a "who can make the most OP Comp" game or switching a class to be the best counter Comp. This also tends to stir up Drama and people quitting.

Arena must be carefully organized so everyone has fun.

"Anything goes" might severely discourage people from playing some of the caster classes. A new arena player can use a Hunter class and be powerful, while Mage or Lock is much more difficult to use.

It is very disappointing to see an unskilled Hunter defeat a very skilled Mage or Lock.

From the hundreds of Arena I have done on Aerie Peak and Korgath I have rarely seen a game with or against a Hunter and felt it was a fun match. I would much rather see Mages and Locks.

I think Arena matches based on strategic CC are the most fun, like keeping track of the Diminishing Returns and chaining CC like a sheep into a fear or a stun. However, that is just my opinion and I wish you the best of luck in building up the 24 arenas.

If you are able to host fun matches with fully geared Hunters then go for it. The podcast was saying that having enchants helps the Casters so maybe in 24 arena its not as a big a problem as we have in F2P.

 

[The Saint]

I would've thought that F2P's would be happy if such a thing happened, if more 24's go there to do arena's more often, it would mean less chance of running into 24's. Ah well, I guess some F2P's take every chance they get to bash at 24's who try to improve 24 gameplay.

free to plays will never be happy unless they're top of the food chain. check the link in my sig and see what they would do, if they could do.

 

[Honey Badger]

90%+ lvl 24s don't have any experience in Arena. Sanctuary is not an elitist type guild. So we might as well learn as a community. With skirmishes coming back soon. People might as well take this time to learn Arenas.

 

[Metro]

My arms warrior would love this

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[Honey Badger]

Hey HB as you know im always up for arenas but im not on half the time coz I work during when you guys play, maby I can do the AUS/NZ Arenas while US/Can ect do theirs? It makes it easy because both my 24 priests are on alex anyways. Will be harder to get games for my time but I think we can build it up. I second this motion.

Living i think you have the most experience in Arenas in the entire guild at low level. I'd love when we come up with any rules/ Comp restrictions for Arenas, your input is always welcomed. Will be looking at Korgath, BWL & Aerie Peak. Whats been working for them and what hasn't.

I would suggest to anyone looking to roll on Alexstrasza making a toon now with AB call to arms back to back plus darkmoon faire. 3 boas are obtainable. Selling battle pets on Alexstrasza does well on both factions for mats. We have a guild enchanter with no charge to guildies.

 

[Metro]

Between my old account and new ive played near 7-800 arenas at max level. Unfortunately I only won about half of them.


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[willix]

he promotes f2p arenas but talks about how hunters and Op classes are frowned upon, monks aren't even allowed. Thanks for ur 2c...


/refunds your 2c.......

Monks 'aren't allowed' because F2Ps can't roll them. If someone rolled a monk on a P2P account, I'm 99% sure there would be zero issues with it because Monks aren't exactly OP at that level.

After reading more and more korgath arena server for f2ps. Is there enough interest to have Alexstrasza as an Arena server?

Alexstrasza hosts the most active lvl 24s, helll even the f2p community is growing here. So my question is if we can find the leadership and people would people be will to do Arenas once a week on a certain night.

Honestly, with burst being what it is, it would not be very fun to see Spriest, boomkins, mages, locks, or hunters dominating arenas. We have arenas going regularly @ 29 and we have enough issues with those classes as it is.

 

[Honey Badger]

Monks 'aren't allowed' because F2Ps can't roll them. If someone rolled a monk on a P2P account, I'm 99% sure there would be zero issues with it because Monks aren't exactly OP at that level.

I'm guessing you never seen a good brewmaster monk in low lvl bracket Arenas. Game changing. Plus pandas racial putting ur healer to sleep 4 secs. Brewmaster with crusader on his weapon. Tiger lusting his partner out of immoblization effects. Sorry Monks are Op, but the community wouldn't know due to restrictions.


lvl 29 & 24 is a big difference. You can glyph plus you can I think u can have 2 specs dual spec. Night and day. 19 to 24 is a huge difference 24 to 25 is huge difference as well.

 

[Bop]

In my opinion, monks have mechanics that are very strong but they lack both heavy burst (I.E., prot pally) and strong consistent damage (I.E., Arms).

I think that is the makings for a very fun class to play without being overpowering.

Very rarely are good mechanics overpowered at our bracket. It is far more likely to have over-inflated numbers be the culprit.

Also: Monks have never nor will they ever be "banned" on korgath. Nor are they currently discouraged.

 

[Honey Badger]

So pretty much its 11- 0, the only 2 other votes were f2ps

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