20s behavior in dungeons

Tiemujin said:
Because let's be clear, you can try and justify it to yourself however you want, leaving a random dungeon mid-run intentionally IS toxic and shitty.
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I mean, sure. But on the scale of possible toxic and shitty behavior, its pretty small. Dungeons arent exactly difficult, can be easily 4-man'd and the replacement will be along soon enough. Who knows, the person who takes your place might be grateful they dont have to do the full dungeon. I know I usually am when it happens to me.

It would certainly be more polite if people stayed. But its akin to like... not holding a door for someone. *Barely* rude.
 
Tuskbreaker said:
its not "your" loot until its in your bags when you win the roll. stop acting like you're somehow above the 4 people in the group.

and i agree with OP, just finish it... not like you're paying for the game anyway, and your time can't be that valuable if you spend it on playing 20s.
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What if I do pay to play the game? Then can I leave dungeons??
 
Goesid said:
Those groups will get a replacement fast anyway
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Depends on the role/dunngeon. a dps leaving in a classic dungeon will get replaced right away. A tank leaving a wotlk dungeon will take up to 15 minutes to be replaced. These things wouldn' be so bad if the average player was willing to swap specs though. Lots of times ill be in a dungeon where we have 2-3 classes with tank specs who refuse to swap if a tank leaves.

I personally don't leave dungeons unless something irl comes up but the impact of people leaving important roles ( tank,healer) would be less if people would actually swap specs when needed.
 
toskosa said:
Depends on the role/dunngeon. a dps leaving in a classic dungeon will get replaced right away. A tank leaving a wotlk dungeon will take up to 15 minutes to be replaced.
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That's been my experience too. If I plan on leaving a dungeon early I join as DPS because nobody gets hurt.

It sucks having to wait 10-15 minutes when a healer or tank leaves + the initial queue time for the dungeon to pop. Not everybody is comfortable with tanking or healing... they took the slower queue time as DPS for a reason. I feel like not screwing over four other people is just the decent thing to do. I'm surprised that so many people don't have a problem with it :(
 
I mean I already wasted half my life playing WoW, why should I waste it any further on strangers that will forget my existence right after the instance is cleared? I say its best for them to forget it before its cleared.
 
Magrain said:
I mean I already wasted half my life playing WoW, why should I waste it any further on strangers that will forget my existence right after the instance is cleared? I say its best for them to forget it before its cleared.
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Inconsiderate behavior isn't justified because you have anonymity or pay a subscription fee.
 
Yall are acting like dungeons are this big difficult challenge and leaving will cause the entire group to crumble lmfao relax you idiots. This is retail WoW, your spot is filled. Not even like you need the extra person anyways, 2-3 competent players (in leveler gear, I'm not talking about twinks) can solo most dungeons anyways.

It's not 2007 anymore.
 
Imagine a rogue, that cant really carry that much. Going for first boss shoulders in old hilsbrad. Having too much sympathy and running the full thing. Dang if you that guy. Props cause even levelers leave that fucking dg when they get in.
Also im not sure i understand why leaving is a big deal but whatever.
 
ohti said:
Yall are acting like dungeons are this big difficult challenge and leaving will cause the entire group to crumble lmfao relax you idiots. This is retail WoW, your spot is filled. Not even like you need the extra person anyways, 2-3 competent players (in leveler gear, I'm not talking about twinks) can solo most dungeons anyways.

It's not 2007 anymore.
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Some BC dungeons can definitely wipe groups. Take a look at dead watcher in Auchenai Crypts.

Nobody is arguing about dungeon difficulty anyways. I'm saying that it's poor behavior to force four other people to accommodate your selfish decisions. They either have to clear the dungeon gimped, wait for a healer/tank slot to fill, or the group falls apart because nobody wants to wait (or the tank/healer that's still there ends up leaving). It boils down to wasting peoples' time.

The self importance in this thread makes Kanye look modest.
 
NavetFris said:
Imagine a rogue, that cant really carry that much. Going for first boss shoulders in old hilsbrad. Having too much sympathy and running the full thing. Dang if you that guy. Props cause even levelers leave that fucking dg when they get in.
Also im not sure i understand why leaving is a big deal but whatever.
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If you’re not interested in:
  • Long/big dungeons
  • Role-Play quests
  • Escort quests
  • Short timed quest windows
  • Only 3 bosses drop good loot
  • Takes about 30min-1hr to complete it
Then that dungeon isn’t the one to que for.
 
ohti said:
Ironic considering the main argument for not leaving is based on the idea that your presence is crucial to the completion of a dungeon.
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My whole argument is that the tanks and healers are the crucial part of the dungeon.

I said I leave dungeons as a DPS and stay as a tank. This thread is where reading comprehension goes to die.
 
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If there's other 20s in there that need something off the last boss and I'm tanking or healing I'll stay.

Pretty much depends on the group (are they being assholes or not) and my level of "holy-fuck-I'm-tired-of-running-this-dungeon" or my "I-waited-in-a-45-minute-dps-queue-for-hillsbrad-again-and-got-no-loot" on that partictular day.

No, your ethics won't change my mind.
 
Tiemujin said:
This may get deleted or locked but needs to be said. If you zone into a dungeon, finish it. It’s not like these BC dungeons take any time, but you leaving creates all sorts of headaches for the people you abandon. I get it. We’re all farming. We all have goals. Just stop being selfish and show some basic human decency. I’ve seen multiple toons from very popular guilds on these forums exhibiting this behavior.

Maybe I’m in the minority and I’m the only one that thinks this is an issue.
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As a 10. And as a 20. F2p. I farm item from first boss. Unlucky or not, i run the fuc.. dungeon to end. I feel like leaving mid dung bc of gear is just rude. You get or not. You run it. I hope ppl will do same. I have ran over 800 hov and no trinck. I allways run full. Just cause. And i can get gold. I have bought items from mount for 2g ea, sell for some change. I have 62 stacks. 200. Still gold is good.
 
Chops said:
I mean, sure. But on the scale of possible toxic and shitty behavior, its pretty small. Dungeons arent exactly difficult, can be easily 4-man'd and the replacement will be along soon enough. Who knows, the person who takes your place might be grateful they dont have to do the full dungeon. I know I usually am when it happens to me.

It would certainly be more polite if people stayed. But its akin to like... not holding a door for someone. *Barely* rude.
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I could have expected this kind of mental gymnastic from a lot of people, but not from you. Not sure why, me being stupid I guess.
Pretty unsavory, gotta say.
 
Margooya said:
I could have expected this kind of mental gymnastic from a lot of people, but not from you. Not sure why, me being stupid I guess.
Pretty unsavory, gotta say.
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I kinda understand Chops here. Twinks i met, mostly slack off and think theyre cool. Good ridd. Good twink will show off and run fully. Just cause.
 
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