Guardian Vs Prot pally

[Kracks]

So if I can kill other dps classes of my skill level as a bear, (rarely but sometimes better than me) what makes it not viable? It’s off meta but still can perform perfectly well

How is guardian druid going to be effective in a 10v10 twink wargame or twink arenas if it takes 50% increased dmg in pvp? If you take focused damage from more than one player it’s pretty easy for you to die even without cc on your healer/healers

 

[Fxv]

How is guardian druid going to be effective in a 10v10 twink wargame or twink arenas if it takes 50% increased dmg in pvp? If you take focused damage from more than one player it’s pretty easy for you to die even without cc on your healer/healers

woah woah woah, hold your horses. I’m talking about pugs and I think the guy who made this forum post also was talking about pugs, unless I am wrong. Wargames and pugs are two different things. Tanks may be unviable in wargames but perfectly viable in pugs

 

[Kracks]

woah woah woah, hold your horses. I’m talking about pugs and I think the guy who made this forum post also was talking about pugs, unless I am wrong. Wargames and pugs are two different things. Tanks may be unviable in wargames but perfectly viable in pugs

There’s just no reason to want to take 50% increased dmg unless ur a dh who wants to fc sorry. I know you really want to be edgy with the whole tanks r viable thing but it’s getting borderline delusional

 

[Greenmtnboy]

the word you're looking for is "workable"
yea, I have this weird thing where I don't do things I don't enjoy. Pugs are miserable, either solo or with a group. Why would I want to que them?

Consider it a big arena with a line of horde 1v1ing you

 

[Kracks]

Only reason I’d be fine with the 50% dmg increase is if the spec had some insane utility that carried objectively in bgs such as dh for fcing or prot pally (not in 20s) for capping bases with that immune shit. Or if the spec did insane dmg compared to other non tank specs which isn’t the case.

 

[Fxv]

There’s just no reason to want to take 50% increased dmg unless ur a dh who wants to fc sorry. I know you really want to be edgy with the whole tanks r viable thing but it’s getting borderline delusional

I feel like you’re just assuming without any experience, but I’ll let you believe what you wanna believe since it’s ur opinion <3

 

[Kracks]

I feel like you’re just assuming without any experience, but I’ll let you believe what you wanna believe since it’s ur opinion <3

i mean you haven't given me a valid argument as to why taking 50% increased damage is worth it you're just kinda saying its perfectly fine without any reasons. and btw op's poll is about which spec is funnier to play. i was originally responding to a misinformed person who thought prot pally was one of the best specs atm

 

[Cloaxs]

Prob War > All

 

[troublesomesleeper]

i mean you haven't given me a valid argument as to why taking 50% increased damage is worth it you're just kinda saying its perfectly fine without any reasons

Maybe they want to try an off meta build for some variety. Guardian druid overrun can be fun to setup kill windows or provide offheals.

 

[glancealot]

Prob War > All

honestly that typo (intentional i bet) somehow made me laugh out loud.

the sound of a "prob war" goes with the whole "tank spec for pvp herp derp" theme.

 

[Kracks]

Maybe they want to try an off meta build for some variety. Guardian druid overrun can be fun to setup kill windows or provide offheals.

That doesn’t rlly have anything to do with the convo. He was trying to tell me guardian druid was viable in a competitive twink environment

 

[glancealot]

i would take a competent leveling warrior over a guardian druid twink (unless you are @Chey ). i have seen leveling warriors top kill charts (with twinks in them) more than once, with heals any semi competent warrior with crusader can be SallyA, SallyB, SallyC, etc.

 

[Neon]

I feel like you’re just assuming without any experience, but I’ll let you believe what you wanna believe since it’s ur opinion <3

if they did not take 50% extra dmg guardian would be viable, I love the spec probably just as much as you tbh

 

[Fxv]

if they did not take 50% extra dmg guardian would be viable, I love the spec probably just as much as you tbh

It’s 100% a cripple but I’m gonna be 100% I played it for a week and had no idea the 50% damage thing even existed.

 

[Radoon]

Woah, the whole post scalated quickly.

What I'll do is play pugs, probably only pugs. That's were I want a viable role.. I thought about playing holy instead of protec, but I want some kind of hybrid (50/50 damage - heal) gameplay, and as holy I would be taking a healer spot for my team that any actual healer would do better..

That's why I thought on Prot pally.. Does that +50% damage hit so hard on pugs? Is that damage changed somehow with Vers? Thanks for all it answers people !

 

[Chops]

What I'll do is play pugs, probably only pugs. That's were I want a viable role..

as holy I would be taking a healer spot for my team that any actual healer would do better..

woe unto me for suggesting a spec you didnt list but...

There is no such thing as "healer spots" anymore. Blizz removed that restriction in BFA sometime. BGs can be 0 healers or (in theory) 100% healers. And Holy Pally makes for a great sort of half dmg/half dps mid field brawler if you want to play that way. And thats not just a meme this xpac, they seem to actually work really well as an "aggro healer" in pugs.

If healer restrictions were what was keeping you from rolling HPal, dont let it. They arent a thing.

But, of the two, you would probably have a lot of fun on a prot pally. The divine steed knockback pvp talent is disruptive as hell, HOJ is never not fun, bubble and LOH give you some fun outs, etc. They just get lots of fun buttons to push.

Conversely, Guardian druid just kinda rumbles around in mid, spamming moonfire and thrash and letting Brambles pad your dmg meters to huge but ultimately useless numbers. oh, youre not drawing enemy fire? better cast roots that some dumbass warrior is gonna break anyway. back to bear form.

 

[Radoon]

woe unto me for suggesting a spec you didnt list but...

There is no such thing as "healer spots" anymore. Blizz removed that restriction in BFA sometime. BGs can be 0 healers or (in theory) 100% healers. And Holy Pally makes for a great sort of half dmg/half dps mid field brawler if you want to play that way. And thats not just a meme this xpac, they seem to actually work really well as an "aggro healer" in pugs.

If healer restrictions were what was keeping you from rolling HPal, dont let it. They arent a thing.

But, of the two, you would probably have a lot of fun on a prot pally. The divine steed knockback pvp talent is disruptive as hell, HOJ is never not fun, bubble and LOH give you some fun outs, etc. They just get lots of fun buttons to push.

Conversely, Guardian druid just kinda rumbles around in mid, spamming moonfire and thrash and letting Brambles pad your dmg meters to huge but ultimately useless numbers. oh, youre not drawing enemy fire? better cast roots that some dumbass warrior is gonna break anyway. back to bear form.

Following ur advice, is I would want to play holy, but be the most tanky possible, should I artifact or search 1hand + shield?

 

[Goesid]

Following ur advice, is I would want to play holy, but be the most tanky possible, should I artifact or search 1hand + shield?

Artifact is 2h so lose alot of armor, so 1h + shield is the obvious go to.

 

[Radoon]

Artifact is 2h so lose alot of armor, so 1h + shield is the obvious go to.

And do I need to farm with a paladin / warrior? I tried farming for a while with my hunt to try and get some relics, and I'm only getting mail greens..

 

[Goesid]

And do I need to farm with a paladin / warrior? I tried farming for a while with my hunt to try and get some relics, and I'm only getting mail greens..

Rares dungeons have to be farmed with the char. Green boes can be farmed by anything at level 22.