EU+US how is your artifact ability performing in bgs?

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  1. Naxxramaskid

    Naxxramaskid Everybody Hates Naxxkid

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    especially wondering about locks but all classes are welcome to leave their feedback.. destructions d are awesome at 110 and I can imagine they are also great at 99.
     
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    Naxxramaskid Everybody Hates Naxxkid

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    My 99 havoc DH (I'll 742) doesn't seem very op, just generally more health in instanced.
     
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    Hit combo+strike of the windlord=any class/any spec dead.
     
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    I cant agree with this enough. Mediocre at best and disappointing.

    Affliction is decent damage, but the artifact ability is lame.

    Windwalker artifact ability looks very... solid, as alister said, but i havent entered on mine yet. I'd rather finish it first so if it's also mediocre i wont stop before it's done. :p
     
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    how long were the queue times and is the bracket still full of 90 Brazilians?
     
  10. penicillin

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    Like Kageroo pointed out, ret paladin works well. The ashes to ashes artifact is strong. From your last post I make up you play US servers. On EU English or Spanish will suffice, Portuguese is spoken less on this side. Queue times EU, pops all day (slowest 45 min to fastest 3 min ques doing randoms).
     
  11. docturphil

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    I'm almost done leveling my ret. He's 88 now and I've already got a few BiS items ready when he hits 99. I'd imagine you can kill anyone in a stun. Save up 5 holy power, stun, justicars vengeance, wake of ashes, justicars vengeance. I doubt anyone survives that.
     
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    Instanced PvP damage is nothing like world damage, just reminding. I havent played my ret in a BG yet, but everything else i've played felt like garbage in comparison to how it is outside.

    Knowing it will be different is one thing... experiencing the difference is another. :/
     
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    My Rsham I hardly use. Long cast for weak AOE heal. Spreading Rip seems more effective. My Surv Hunter I'm working on seems to have promise though.
     
  14. docturphil

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    Sure, it's different. But I've done a few BGs while leveling my paladin. Justicar's Vengeance still does a shit ton of damage to stunned targets. I haven't tried Wake of Ashes yet, but I'm assuming that hits pretty hard too. Justicar's Vengeance x 2 + Wake of Ashes I'm sure is a ton of damage and it's all in about 3 seconds. I'd bet that if either of your vengeance strikes or WoA crits, your target is probably dead in 3 seconds. Hell, they might even die without crits.

    Of course I'm just guessing at this point. I'll have to try it and see, but if the damage is anything like I experienced, I'll probably be killing targets in 3 seconds on a 30 sec CD.
     
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    anybody tried or encountered a demo lock in battlegrounds? their artifact traits look juicy.
     
  16. docturphil

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    So after doing some BGs and arenas, I can say that it is unlikely to take someone from 100% to 0% within a hammer of justice stun, but it is possible with a few crits and the berserk buff.

    I have 236k HP in instanced PvP right now at item level 744. Your average player in a BG will have 160k-220k. With berserk, I crit with justicar's vengeance against a stunned target for 80k. Two Justicar's Vengeance crits + wake of ashes during a stun is going to do ~180k-190k damage.

    So yeah, the conditions have to be right, but you can do it.

    Also, I'm not sure I used avenging wrath when I got that 80k crit. So it's quite possible I could crit for 100k+. Will have to try.
     
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    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/bleeding-hollow/Philipmorris/advanced

    Level 13 Artifact Level.

    The toughness of demo locks is off the wall crazy. I can outheal most healers unless they're very twinked. Demonology is a spec that takes some time to master, but I'm a living god and cannot be stopped. Probably the best dueling spec in the game as well since the absorbs add up to an extra 1-1.5 million HP.

    Spread pressure is not comparable to my affliction lock. Aff deals about 40-50% more overall dmg in bgs. So instead of doing 7-10mil I'm usually sitting at 3.5-4mil dmg with 3mil healing.

    The artifact weapon ability hits like a truck - however, this spell requires setup and is a very hard cast to get off. In general its a clunky, tough brawler compared to the butter and grace of my affliction lock. It also has about triple the keybinds and takes some time to keep track of all the small little demons running around.

    Just to add some more - excellent CC.
     
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    thank's for the detailed answer. could you upload a screenshot of your artifact weapon/traits and maybe explain which traits/gold traits are good for Ipvp.

    in form of the fel guard stun?